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zailor
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Topic: Death roll recoveryPosted: 16 Dec 09 at 4:45pm |
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Yea doesnt the hull speed doulbe during a gybe or something like that
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Jamesd
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Posted: 16 Dec 09 at 2:27pm |
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yeah i think thats the same in most boats. i once asked big ben his tips for downwind sailing and he replied if you are just about to capsize, you are sailing fast haha
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Matt Jackson
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Posted: 16 Dec 09 at 12:59pm |
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Was a big problem when I sailed a Contender and I think it happened mostly when the boom was a long way out on a run and a gust twists the leach away until it's exhausting out of the top. This drives the rig to windward. Pulling in a big armful of mainsheet (either 1:1 or 2:1) and a big steer away from the wind seemed to be enough to get things under control in most conditions... I don't think it's fast though... although it has been said that a Contender goes quickest just before the point of no return, shortly after this point things get quite slow. Edited by Matt Jackson |
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Strangler
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Posted: 14 Dec 09 at 12:26pm |
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I'm not an instructor, maybe the mere fact that beginners may overhear the term is enough to change the name! Or its too scarey for intermediates learning the run too? |
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zailor
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Posted: 13 Dec 09 at 8:59pm |
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Do you really want to teach new kids how to sail downwind in big death roll conditions. sorry I meant Pink fluffy Kitten speed wobble roll.
If anyone can say that during a death roll I'll send them a free video cammera to prove it
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alstorer
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Posted: 13 Dec 09 at 10:22am |
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Shouldn't be teaching beginners dead runs anyway, "training runs" with a margin of error to reduce accidental crash gybes are the order of the day. |
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tickler
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Posted: 13 Dec 09 at 9:49am |
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It's called "Death Roll" because the outcome is inevitable like death, not because it will cause death. No problem for the "undead" then, (GRF) ?
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jeffers
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Posted: 13 Dec 09 at 8:30am |
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I call it an 'oh b******s', normally about 0.2s before I hit the water |
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Strangler
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Posted: 12 Dec 09 at 11:00pm |
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Now now you naughty boys and girls you are not allowed to call it a death roll, it scares beginners. Sailing schools call it a SPEED WOBBLE. After hearing this from an instructor sailing in the FD fleet we decided to call it a PINK FLUFFY KITTEN. You could never get scared of that could you! Ha! Edited by Strangler |
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Jon711
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Posted: 12 Dec 09 at 7:30pm |
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My usual death roll recovery, is breaststroke!!!!! Not a great help but the unfortunate truth..
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