Another which boat next thread

   Cats and Lasers not for me I'm afraid 
Kids grown up, still quite fit and quite happy to trek around the opens for my single fleet experience.

Thanks for the input though.

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Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Topic: Another which boat next thread Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 12:25pm
	Cats and Lasers not for me I'm afraid Kids grown up, still quite fit and quite happy to trek around the opens for my single fleet experience. Thanks for the input though.

womble12345 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 14 Apr 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 99	Post Options Post Reply Quote womble12345 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 11:17am
	Your club does sound good although I am sorry to hear about the lack of any decent local classes. Presumably if there is a big cadet fleet then there will be a gap in a few years for a class for them to feed into. If you don’t want to move clubs maybe pick a class that you think you can build at the club that the older cadets can sail and maybe you can tempt a few other adults from other classes to also buy one? I have just worked out what club it is, there are plenty of other clubs within 30 minutes drive, personally I would be considering other local clubs that have bigger fleets.

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 8:38am
	Hi Womble, Like many clubs these days we don't have fleets anymore. We sometimes get 2 L2000's on the water and there are usually 3 Lasers out but generally it's a completely mixed fleet. The members that want single fleet racing and there are quite a few, travel to open events. As for changing club, here's what we would miss: ........ Good friends (yes I do have some ), large onsite parking, large onsite camping, club owns it's own beach, easy launching, good social scene and top notch cadet training (our Grand Daughter is in the cadets)......... edit...........within walking distance of the bigggest Marina in Europe, cruiser races (crew slots available for members). No prejudice between cats and dinghies, little or no vandalism. No megolomaniac com members. No Prejudice between cats and dinghies ....did I already mention that one? Edited by GK.LaserII

Merlinboy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote Merlinboy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 10:52pm
	Thats becuase a the person that has posted here is well known on the forum!

womble12345 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 14 Apr 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 99	Post Options Post Reply Quote womble12345 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 10:38pm
	Well this is page 3 of this thread and no-one has yet asked those 2 most important of questions.

Merlinboy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote Merlinboy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 10:26pm
	You havnt read any of the recommend a boat threads then have you, virtually everytime someone asks the question they get the reply: Where do you sail? What classes are currently being sailed there?

womble12345 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 14 Apr 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 99	Post Options Post Reply Quote womble12345 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 10:18pm
	You say yourself you need to sail against other boats in your class in order to get better, do you have the time and inclination to go to 2 opens a month? I think you need to look closer to home, what fleets are at your home club? Why drive the country to get class racing when for a slight compromise on some of your wants you can get good class racing at your home club every weekend? For me I sail the boat that is most suitable to my weight and aspirations with the biggest fleet at my local club, in my opinion that is the way to learn and progress. Also you will find friendliness of the travelling fleet and size of fleet do not go hand in hand, decide if you want big fleet or friendly people. A new face at a 200 open is not noticed among 50 other boats but in a smaller class you will be noticed and made welcome. Why is it in every 'what boat' thread people always neglect to advise people to sail the biggest class at their home club? If there is not one bigger class at your club then maybe change club. Rant over! Edited by womble12345

tmoore Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 01 Nov 07 Location: Wales Online Status: Offline Posts: 880	Post Options Post Reply Quote tmoore Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Aug 09 at 3:16pm
	The obvious choice would be a L/V3000. However if you wanted something a bit different I can reccomend both the 29er and rs500. The 29er is not really that difficult to sail. Its a little tippy in the lighter stuff but once your on the wire it speeds up and becomes stable. In the light stuff its much more fun and has the legs on the 500 (and 3000). In breeze and waves they can be tricky however. Main advantage is that they can be picked up cheap (sub £2000 if your lucky). They have a very strong circuit (dominated by sub 25's but still some adults there). Another huge plus is the self tacking jib, it makes tacking/gybing in breeze much less stressful. The 29er is just as fast whether the main is taken by the helm or crew. Normally crew does it because it leaves the helm free to adjust the jib/ concentrate on other things. IMO its more fun crewing while taking the main upwind. The 500 is more stable than the 29er. You dont really get going until its upwards of a F4. However it is more managable further up the wind scale. They are newer boats but more expensive. Nothing bad to say about them really. They are quite powered up when its breezy and IMO were more difficult to depower than the 9er. Where are you based? (if near N.Wales your welcome to try my 9er) Try everything which appeals to you and the mrs.
	Landlocked in Africa RS300 - 410 Firefly F517 - Nutshell Micro Magic RC yacht - Eclipse

laserboy404 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 14 Mar 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 146	Post Options Post Reply Quote laserboy404 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Aug 09 at 2:49pm
	Laser Vago XD ? single trapeze, assy, unfortuntely not much of a circuit at the moment but it might be another one to consider.
	Laser 159392 Javelin 53

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 11 Aug 09 at 2:06pm
	There seems to be one on the RS class assoc website and a couple on boats and outboards. I just joined their E group and have got the low down on the sails debate. RS seem to keep a very firm hand on their boats. Sails changed for the right reasons it seems. Better visibility? edit ........ and a couple on Apollo Duck Edited by GK.LaserII