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    Posted: 22 Sep 09 at 11:49am
Originally posted by winging it

There is now a Level 3 course being piloted, designed to help you consolidate what you have learned and enable you to try out part sof the four Advanced Modules (Seamanship, Spinnakers, Day Sailing and Performance Sailing).

I'm currently taking those with Level 2 or equivalent skills for my Start Racing sessions, aiming to polish them up with boat handling drills as they go along.


That's what I'm actually doing with my Feva group, more or less, but they get regattas each wednesday so they prefer to do something a little different on training nights than endless starts and WL courses. Football with boats and rules 10-12 last week. Planing techniques tonight seems in order since it is actually blowing!

They are lucky in that they all get to race together and are at a similar level of completely ignoring the rules on wedsnedays! never mind.
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There is now a Level 3 course being piloted, designed to help you consolidate what you have learned and enable you to try out part sof the four Advanced Modules (Seamanship, Spinnakers, Day Sailing and Performance Sailing).

I'm currently taking those with Level 2 or equivalent skills for my Start Racing sessions, aiming to polish them up with boat handling drills as they go along.
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the old level 4 - racing - used to be often 5 days, which meant  masses of practice starts, short course races and discussion of rules. I got a huge boost from it.

Totally agree that there is a gap between all the dinghy 1&2 - and competent crew, day skipper on the RYA yacht side, and actually making sure you are doing enough right to progress on your own merits!


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I posted it to the address you PM'd me!

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Graeme I have put another one in the post (should have arrived today <27th>!)



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Originally posted by winging it

I now have Garry's cd and have to say it is very good - big thanks Garry 


Lucky you, I never got mine...

Since you resurrected this thread, I should report that following that three evening series, which whilst being an
introduction for some kind of turned into a bit of a refresher for others and also span off a kind of new member
induction anyway it resulted in a big boost to the racing and one of the biggest entries we've had for boats to our ship
race..

Pics are on our website which doesn't offer the ability to direct link unfortunately..
Hssc
but
This does.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 09 at 12:18pm
I now have Garry's cd and have to say it is very good - big thanks Garry 
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If we run 5410 then the P goes up at 4.

If we run the 10 then we bung it up on the 5.

As to the rules, they're just intended to get some basic 'flavours' at this
point.

Too many rules spoils the fun imho

If they want to go out into the big wide world, then they'll need to bone
up and prepare to get anal, this is about getting them to join in rather
than scaring them off.

Overtaking boat should keep clear, if there is no longer such a rule, then
perhaps we should re introduce it.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote JohnW Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 09 at 2:00pm

Usefull document there Graeme.

A couple of queries - do you really put the P flag up at 5 mins or the more usual 4 mins (for 541 start)?

I also see you quote the mythical "Overtaking boat keeps clear" rule - perhaps it should be explained that this not acutally a racing rule, but is a reasonable approximation of the rules regarding gaining overlaps as a useful starting point for a beginner.

 

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Aug 09 at 10:29am
Originally posted by jeffers

We have a Vision as a club boat at Hunts. Yes it is heavy and it wont set the world alight with it's performance but it is fast enough to mix it up and a club fleet (even when you don't use the kite).

At hunts we also have an option for a cadet/novice start aimed at getting the 'youth' on the water. There are those who choose to start in the main fleets but for the cadets who are a little nervous about their racing it has proved a success when a group of them get together.



Paul I'm currently negotiating to do a Start Racing course on  Saturday mornings at Hunts.  Any experienced racers who can turn up to help out at any time would be very welcome.  Let me know if you're interested.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Garry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 09 at 4:20pm

West country boats import and refurbish some of the fleets from sailing centres overseas - see pete's website http://www.petevincent.co.uk/index.php

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