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    Posted: 16 Mar 05 at 10:18pm
Thanks very much for that info granite - it should hopefully just be a solution until i sort out the front deck and its track!
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Originally posted by ssailor


How do you mean bend in the middle surely there is hardly any sheet tension as the sail passes from side to side? 


Part of the problem was that the slider was just a U bolt it would stick during a tack and would not go right to the end. Also the sheeting point was in board of the outer attaching point so it would twist the whole thing under load so that the center point of the track would lift up slightly.
The Aluminium tube it was made from was verry soft I just bent it over my knee, Stainless steel would be alot stiffer if heavier.
You would need to make the attaching points quite strong to resist all the twisting loads, remember that as the lead for the sheet is turning through nearly 180 degrees  the track takes almost double the sheet load.


 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Granite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 05 at 9:48pm
Sargethesailor, I prefer to describe it as recycling. It is a skill I learned rebuilding some rather tired Laser II's
Did you happen to study in the granite city yourself?

The clothes rail only lasted a few days before it was replaced with a proper track.


I would definatly agree with Jim C's comment that you should try and get a track that is not pre drilled. It is difficult to bend the track without gettng kinks.

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Ive got a benedict 7 hull thats been modifyed by ovington and has extended wings(racks like the new ones but solid like a 49ers), and a prodder. It currently has a spaceframe with a open foredeck but we are in the process of replacing that with a carbonkevlar fibre foredeck.

I was wondering if a system along the ideas of the clothes line but using solid steel rod in stead of soft aluminum clothes line would work! - its certainly hard enough to bend into shape!

How do you mean bend in the middle surely there is hardly any sheet tension as the sail passes from side to side? 

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Granite you always were a skinflint!  How fitting that you should have studied in Aberdeen!
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what kind of 14 do you have? mate tried the cloth trail, but it relly didnīt work very long, even in our light winds.
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When my Self tacker track broke I replaced it with a peice of aluminium tube which had previously been a cloths rail. With a U bolt as a slider.

It worked for a few days but tended to bend in the middle quite a bit. and had too much friction.

 

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Yeh it would work but only straight across a boat - it cannot be curved because it would need support - I am currently looking at using stainless steel rod to the same effect but it can be bent thus being a no go grab rail!!


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I wonder if instead of a track a strop (like a mainsheet strop) would work?
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Thanks for that jim c, unfortunatley the dart track is predrilled so its an unlikely option now!
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