rs200 crew weight

   I sailed a 200 for the nationals this year with my helm who I sailed 420s with, together we weigh about 23.5 stone so we were a bit heavy for both classes, although on the lightest wind days about the 200 nationals and the 420 nationals we posted our best results of a 16th at the 200 nationals and a 9th at the 420 nationals, but I have to add we did struggle a bit in the marginal planing conditions.

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29er310 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 17 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 174	Post Options Post Reply Quote 29er310 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: rs200 crew weight Posted: 28 Nov 08 at 8:21pm
	I sailed a 200 for the nationals this year with my helm who I sailed 420s with, together we weigh about 23.5 stone so we were a bit heavy for both classes, although on the lightest wind days about the 200 nationals and the 420 nationals we posted our best results of a 16th at the 200 nationals and a 9th at the 420 nationals, but I have to add we did struggle a bit in the marginal planing conditions.
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Merlinboy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote Merlinboy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Nov 08 at 9:37pm
	Jeffers im sorry thats just not true there are LOADS available both on the CA website and on all of the usual internet based classified sections. A quick search on apollo duck brings up 21 without even looking hard!

jeffers Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeffers Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Nov 08 at 4:55pm
	The L2K is pricey new because it is a Laser and pricey second hand because there just aint that many around for sale. They are a hoot in a blow though. I sailed one at around 20 stone all up, the helm was 7 of that i was the rest. She couldn't even get the cunningham and kicker on half the time so I was doing it for her!
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ChrisJ Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 07 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 337	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChrisJ Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Nov 08 at 4:10pm
	There was a question about 400's and private ownership (presumably vs sailing schools and holiday companies?). I doubt if the actual numbers will ever be known! But the RS Class Association has a "enter your boat details here" option. There have 12 or so of those 36 or 40 new boats entered. Assuming (guessing here) that only half the private members bother to tell other people about their new boat, then that makes two thirds of the new boats to private members and 1/3 to organisations.

Merlinboy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote Merlinboy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Nov 08 at 11:13am
	Not sure ditching my wife is an option mate!! lol, thanks for the words of encouragement. I would prefer a 400 but i think it would kill my wife. The other option is to have another baby and buy another 300!! But deciding to have another baby in order to aid my choice in dinghy is a little.. well odd!

Jamesd Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 01 Feb 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 377	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jamesd Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Nov 08 at 9:14am
	400's are priced pretty well, there has been a massive fall in price in second hand ones over the past year, but only because ldc are now turning them out again after a long period of faffing about with the moulds going on holiday. I sold mine 2 years ago and got £2000 more than its worth now, but back then they were like rocking horse poo. I think you have made the right choice Merlinboy, at the end of the day you are sailing the boat so its got to be what you want to sail. 200 are boats i dislike, but 1100 people disagree with me and tbh the number at the opens is very persuasive. I think the 2000 looks seriously underpowered and to me looks like something you would see 6 kids and an instructor piled into at the uksa. 400s are brilliant boats, they carry weight very well and probably wouldnt be to big a load, but to do very well in them you do have to be very physical which is why i can understand your decision to go with the 2. I was in the same situation as you a few years ago, my solution was to ditch the bird and get a bloke sailing with me instead. lol. Go for the 200 and if it isnt right, sell it. they hold there price amazingly.

Merlinboy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote Merlinboy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Nov 08 at 10:05pm
	Thats another good point they are bloody expensive. I cant be a supply and demand thing there are loads of second hand ones forsale. 400's are not cheap i just think their value has now fallen to where it should be. 200's are fairly pricey still! (one of the reasons i bought the GP was its broad crew weight)

timeintheboat Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 01 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 615	Post Options Post Reply Quote timeintheboat Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Nov 08 at 9:55pm
	Both the 400 and L2K are good weight carriers (as is the GP!) - but 2nd hand you get a lot more boat for your buck with the 400. And why is the L2K soooo pricey for a hardly exotic piece of kit? Is it just because it's a Laser?
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Merlinboy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote Merlinboy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Nov 08 at 9:47pm
	I still would rather be to heavy and have a 200 then the right weight in a class i didnt like (2000) There really is no point in trying to sell it to me i will never own one. The cre weight in a 400 isnt the problem its the loads, i have a feeling my very petite wife will struggle in one in anything over a F3. Out of the 40 400's sold this year, how many where to the retail public, i would be interested in hearing the true facts. I can only go off what friends that sail in the 400 fleet are saying at the moment!

ChrisJ Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 07 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 337	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChrisJ Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Nov 08 at 9:08pm
	2000 Open meetings this year have typically had over 30 boats: very competitive. Not as many as the 200 get, but more than many other classes. The 400, having sold 40 boats this past year, is hardly "dying out": very few boats (compared, say, to the 200's) for sale at the present time. Fewer boats at the Nationals over the last few years seems to have translated to more boats at individual club level. 200 crew weights from 18 to 20 stone. 400 crew weights from 21 (inland) or 23 (estuary / sea) to 30 stone. 2000 weights cover the whole range! 18 to 30 stone (it helps being a slightly heavier boat - it carries the weight very well). Cheers, Chris