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DiverSteve ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 28 |
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Great idea. Have to start somewhere in building the fleet.
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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.... we could ask Andy to slow down a bit so more can see what it is all about ! and you say that is in the light stuff ... how does he go when it blows !? Better idea ...give him a bit more competition. Or we could organise a bunch of other Blazes along ... Blaze720
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DiverSteve ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 28 |
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Yes. I spoke to Andy Conway at CYC last sunday - very much an advocate for the Blaze. Even in very light wind, though, he was so far ahead of the rest of the fleet (mainly Solos and a few Lasers) that it can't have been much of a competition for him. There are a number of faster boats in the club but few seem very active in the recing programme. The most popular boat for racing at CYC is undoubtably the Solo but good ones do seem very expensive and, even then, rather dull. |
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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If you are at Chichester there are a couple of Blazes there already - I'm sure if you ask they will help you decide and the CA can put you in touch if you do not know them ... and yes if wanting an epoxy hull makes you a boat snob well you can add the Blaze to the list now as well - but ask yourself why people want them. But seriously a down to weight polyester boat, fully foamed and vacuum bagged can still be very very good indeed. But still be a bit careful about 'bargain' boats though - they are usually priced that way for good reason. As ever try all the ones you like the look of, ideally in a reasonable breeze, then make your choice. Blaze 720 |
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Merlinboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169 |
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A vareo is much much cheaper then the equivalent phantom!!
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DiverSteve ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 28 |
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Still chewing over the options. Quite keen on the Vareo because of spinnaker and capability to take a passenger. Very much like the Blaze and the Solution. Dismissed the RS300 as being unsuited to the erratic winds we get at Chichester. These are all great boats but relative to older designs like the Phantom and Contender they are quite pricey. In particular I notice you can pick up Contenders for peanuts. How do they compare with the modern boats mentioned? I have never helmed from a trapeze but it looks more comfortable than hiking and better able to cope with more power. |
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Rockhopper ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Nov 07 Location: Eastry Online Status: Offline Posts: 642 |
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the vareo will sail to its handicap if you are doing upwind downwind i have overtaken rs 400 when going downwind . i have had rs300 and vareo the 300 was great relly enjoyed sailing it but after you get the hang of it you find you want more fun again so i went out and bought another vareo which you can sail whatever the weather unlike the 300 which seems really hard work when you have over one meter waves which happens quite alot at our club.i would say gor for a test sail in a vareo you will find it great fun with the kite up not quite so fun upwind but what boat is easy going upwind apart from ones with a trapeze. andy |
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Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest.
2004 national champ Laser5000 2007,2010,National Champ Rs Vareo |
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Pabs ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 177 |
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RS300 more extreme then a 600!!! Think the guy got a bit mixed up to be honest. There is a learning curve to the 300 but once you get reasonably good you will be able to sail pretty much anything competitively as it teaches you everything and punishes you when you cock up but you just know when everything goes right. |
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blaze720 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1635 |
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If you want a try in a Blaze contact us at Cirrus (www.cirrusrace.com ) or the class association. Your weight is right in the middle and the boat generally sells itself to a great many. Might not be what suits you but simply try it and all the the other ones that grab you ! If you are within striking distance of QMSC on the 18/19th come along and watch the 'Third time Lucky' 2008 Blaze National championships. The first TWO attempts in June and late September at Stone SC BOTH had to be abandoned after just two races each time in extremely light and fickle winds and strong tide - ie no series and no declared result. The 2-day Inlands has therefore been renamed and replaced by 'The Nationals' ! Good opportunity to see plenty of boats and maybe even try - so far in the previous two attempts we have had 58 individual boats turn up on the start lines .... nobody could write this script ! See Utube 'Blaze 2008 Nationals' for off water 'activity' ... some at least enjoyed Stone's bar. Blaze 720
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m_liddell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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A new well set up laser feels very different to a 'holiday company thrashed every day in the sun, set up to be rigged fast' laser, I know I worked for sunsail.
The Vareo would be a good bet if the laser isn't to your liking. It works well with a little more 'righting moment' aboard and the asy downwind is fun. |
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