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    Posted: 01 Aug 08 at 9:46am

when i say profit i mean it in a general term, so it could go to wages or improvements etc.

and im not just talking about weymouth.  lots of other places charge for use of their facilities.  which is fair enough.

on a side note, i did the national18 nationals there a few years back and thought that the facilities were abit rubbish considering the money spent.  just my opinion and they may have uprated them by now.

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I hate snotty marinas and clubs.  There are so many great places to sail, I would suggest you log your complaints to your class association and avoid holding events there. 

The olympics is supposed to have a lasting legacy that will promote sports and yet this location, the supposed flagship of our sailing venues, seems to promote money grabbing and seems generally unwelcoming.

I'm all for finding that public slipway and sticking two fingers too them!  You may be surprised and find that their slips have local by-laws and rights of way - now that would be funny. 

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Originally posted by Chew my RS

Originally posted by Skiffman

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Also nobody other than British people are allowed to sail from WPNSA until the 2012 Olympics apart from at events. Every other nation has done this previously and i suppose we dont really want the foriegners using our facilites and seeing what we get up to...

How can that be legal?  Surely, at the very least, you can't stop EU citizens?

That can't be correct -wasn't the Moth 'Worlds' just held there???

 

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It's £200 for a 5 day event, thats right 40 big ones a day.....remind me again how much lottery money they've had?? 
I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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Originally posted by Skiffman

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Also nobody other than British people are allowed to sail from WPNSA until the 2012 Olympics apart from at events. Every other nation has done this previously and i suppose we dont really want the foriegners using our facilites and seeing what we get up to...

How can that be legal?  Surely, at the very least, you can't stop EU citizens?

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Originally posted by slop_idol

whay not ask your class association barter for a deal for practice days.  it could potentially bring a higher percentage of cometitors for longer.  for example if only 5 out of 50 competitors turn up early and get charged £25 a day for two days each thats £250, but if say the class association got a deal at £5 a day and 25 people showed up fpr two days training that would also be £250. that way everyone is happy.  yes they might not make as much profit but the initial costs have been taken up by the full membership and grants etc.  anything extra is for profit.

Why not just not go there. This is supposed to be a facility for the general public.

Their membership fees do not look that bad at £165 for full membership. But then you need to add harbour dues and boat storage of £220 for a dinghy or £305 if you keep your dinghy on your road trailer.

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Originally posted by slop_idol

  anything extra is for profit.

That's the odd thing. WPNSA is supposed to be a 'not for profit' organisation. 

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whay not ask your class association barter for a deal for practice days.  it could potentially bring a higher percentage of cometitors for longer.  for example if only 5 out of 50 competitors turn up early and get charged £25 a day for two days each thats £250, but if say the class association got a deal at £5 a day and 25 people showed up fpr two days training that would also be £250. that way everyone is happy.  yes they might not make as much profit but the initial costs have been taken up by the full membership and grants etc.  anything extra is for profit.

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WPNSA is expensive for a lot of things; the open meeting fee for the 600's was £5-£7 higher than the other venues, the food is more, and it doesn't have the atmosphere of a traditional sailing club.

When I went down to watch the Moth worlds I got a snotty note on my windscreen within 10 minutes of arriving saying I couldn't park there (no signs or yellow lines to say otherwise), was charged the day rate plus harbour dues but I couldn't keep my boat there overnight from 4pm when I arrived without paying for another day so I took my boat back to the campsite, and to cap it all I was approached on four occasions by RIBs demanding that I go back in, the racing is over!

Cheeky gits, I wasn't a competitor, I've paid to sail for a day, and I will do so!

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there is a slipway halfway along the causeway at that Blue Marine marina bit. Not sure what they charge to launch but a lot of people have done it in the past whilst the ISAF Youth Worlds were on in 2006 and no one was allowed in WPNSA.

To be fair that is a rip off! We have paid like a tenner at grafham and stokes bay for a day membership which i thought was a bit expensive. If you could blag that your boat is 15ft or under its only £11.05 a day which is reasonable.

Also nobody other than British people are allowed to sail from WPNSA until the 2012 Olympics apart from at events. Every other nation has done this previously and i suppose we dont really want the foriegners using our facilites and seeing what we get up to...
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