registered keeper for boats?

   It was very dirty and a mouse had eaten the spinny! so I knocked him down a bit

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iamalipaul Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 26 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote iamalipaul Report Post Quote Reply Topic: registered keeper for boats? Posted: 01 Jul 08 at 2:48pm
	It was very dirty and a mouse had eaten the spinny! so I knocked him down a bit
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tmoore Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 01 Nov 07 Location: Wales Online Status: Offline Posts: 880	Post Options Post Reply Quote tmoore Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jul 08 at 12:12pm
	thats why insurance companies usually state that it needs to be in a locked compound (not much help from those in the same club) but also that sails and foils should be removed from the boat when not in use. if someone advertises a complete boat without foils and sails i think most would be suspicious. when i bought my laser it was from the WYA so i got reciept etc and it was all ligit. when i delivered it to the new owner it was just cash in hand with no reciept or anything. he did come over beforehand and i spent 2hours going over every tiny nick, repair and everything on the boat i would want to know as a buyer. as for rs700 756, i was bored and had a look at that advert, seemed a very good price for the boat. hope you have a great time sailing it. edit: lasers have the hull number on a hologram plaque thing at the back of the cockpit, they also have a hull identification number engraved on the right side of the transom about 5cm below the gunnel. all RS boats have the number marked between the rudder pintles (marked with holes drilled in the shape of the numbers) Edited by tmoore
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iamalipaul Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 26 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote iamalipaul Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jun 08 at 3:04pm
	Ive now bought my boat, we did the deal in the dinghy park and I wrote a cheque which has now been cashed and I have the removable kit at home. We wrote out a hand written receipt that showed price paid and what kit was included also showing both names and addresses, so think I am safe. Perhaps someone with legal expertise could draw up a generic form that would help. I dont think stolen boats are too much of a problem (unlike cars) as the market is pretty small, and if it was stolen someone is bound to know who it really belongs to. No my thought was - you notice a boat in a dinghy park somewhere that obviously hasnt moved for a year or so. Luckily all the kit is under the cover, advertise it on the net for a very good price (coz it's dirty) mobile contact only - of course. Victim turns up with a cheque, or even better, cash. Story of 'havent had time to sail so....' deal is done - and see yah!! Unsuspecting owner turns up a few months later to find ...... I know I'm too suspicious! Thoughts?
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GBR884 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 06 Nov 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 132	Post Options Post Reply Quote GBR884 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jun 08 at 10:18am
	I cant remember but dont lasers have the sail number under that thing at the front? so surely thats not too hard to check? Adam

mike ellis Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339	Post Options Post Reply Quote mike ellis Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 08 at 7:28pm
	my hull number is the same as my sail number on the 600, it's printed on the back of the hull by the rudder pintells, looks like its been drilled into the hull or something. and the 14 hull number is the only one i can remember, which is also "drilled" into the hull on the starboard quarter.
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Merlinboy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 03 Jul 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3169	Post Options Post Reply Quote Merlinboy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jun 08 at 7:02am
	Yeah you need to call the technical department, give them your details and the details of your boat, and then either send a cheque or pay by card over the phone, you will have you new certificate a week or so later.

HannahJ Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 23 Jul 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 861	Post Options Post Reply Quote HannahJ Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jun 08 at 7:58pm
	Merlinboy, the point I was making is that measurement certificates can be used as proof of ownership - at the moment mine isn't Whilst I'm on this topic, can anyone clarify me the RYA's way of getting them renewed? I didn't get a reply when I asked them... anyone in the know?
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Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jun 08 at 3:39pm
	The stolen boats lists on the internet tell a different story, sadly. You are probebly OK if you own something unusual, but one Laser looks the same as another, and are pretty easy to sell on line. I'm always very wary of hulls with no kit or kit with no hulls on ebay.
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Jamie600 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 14 Jun 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 718	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jamie600 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jun 08 at 1:29pm
	At the risk of sounding very naive, I really can't imagine that anyone within the sailing community would actually steal someone elses boat and try to sell it as their own. And as Iamalipaul said, if a non-sailor nicked a boat they wouldn't know what to do with it
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Chew my RS Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 05 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 790	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chew my RS Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jun 08 at 11:05am
	I often wondered about this. I sold my very old Laser a couple of years ago, but I had absolutely no proof that the boat was mine to sell. It was quite tempting to sell the one next to it in the boat park - it was much shinier and would have got me a few more quid! I'd say that the vast majority of boats don't have a measurement certificate, but if you do then that must help. Perhaps you could use your insurance certificate as evidence of ownership?
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