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    Posted: 10 Apr 08 at 12:13am
One reason I gave up sailing the Laser was becuase it was killing my knees.  The 4000 is much better on them since getting the last 5% over the side is much less important for the helm - much more important to keep the boat under control.
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If you're up to it you could crew a Laser 4000.  Its very much a standing up sort of boat.  You stand whilst you tack and gybe although you see the tentative try and kneel but it doesn't work.  The boom is high so when tacking you come in into a standing position duck under the high boom and walk out onto the rack and out on the wire.

Here's a couple of photos in strong and light winds.

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Interestingly, just had an evening in a Pico and it wasn't really a problem, presumably because you never really get of your knees/arse. I deffinatetly think it's the sit - stand - manouver - sit that causes me the problems in boats like the Bahia and Stratos.

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I wonder if, as Ellistine is relatively new to sailing, the problem with his knees could be that he is still "feeling the boat" and tensing his knees more than he would if he were an "old hand".

Either way a cat is easier on the knees and you have to sit with legs relatively straight on a D18 so that you can cleat the traveller with your back foot.

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Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by *GM*

Guy at my club sold his Blaze
because it had knackered his
knees. The
bloke that bought it had just sold his cat because that had knackered his
knees....


must be bad technique, I've only sailed a blaze a handful of times, but in
comparison to the laser I then owned, it felt very 'ergonomic'.

One thing about the Vareo that was positive was the hiking position (once
you got the toestraps dead tight, it was relatively easy on the
knees)


Why are people so quick to criticise others round here? I never mentioned
hiking - he developed bursitis in both knees from kneeling in the boat
downwind and in light conditions.
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Sounds like a clear case of taking up windsurfing.

No knee problems there.

I've had nothing but since taking up this sitting down (More kneeling down)
lark.

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He was mentioned in this month's Dinghy Sailing Magazine. Ben Ainslie told him it was too comfortable!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 08 at 10:27am

Talking about hiking position, did you meet the student doing some research with his hiking bench at the Dinghy Show in March?
We had to give the bench a try and fill in a questionaire. I don't know what is the outcome of his study, but his hiking bench was far too comfortable for Laser sailors (Or Toppers, for that matter!).

Anyone knows? Is he a forum member? 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote *GM* Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 08 at 10:06pm
Guy at my club sold his Blaze because it had knackered his knees. The
bloke that bought it had just sold his cat because that had knackered his
knees....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Scooby_simon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Apr 08 at 2:12pm

I have very fecked knees from a few ski inceidents and find that Hiking is worse than Wiring.  SAiling my Hurricane used to make my knees ache but the mainsheet loads were fairly high.  and the 59 was a "grunty" boat; Don;t get knee ache on the F16. 

I wear knee supports when skiing but don't bother when sailing as you do not get the same shock loads. 

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