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    Posted: 07 Feb 05 at 12:40am
Originally posted by Chris Noble

this all sounds like a very very daft idea to me, why restrict new members coming to your club?


There's a damn good reason.

Down here, most clubs (like the strongest club in  the state) won't allow you to race unless you have one of their 5 or 6 classes. So that club gets 20-30 boats in each class and everyone gets good racing.

If they allowed everyone to race, instead of 25 Cherubs you may get 4 Cherubs, 4 29ers, 4 13 foot skiffs, 4 125s, 4 420s, and 4 MG14s and no-one gets a good strong fleet.

I sail in a mixed fleet (with trophies for classes) on Sundays and it's terrible racing all the odds and sods on yardstick, compared to racing in a good strong class.

Life is probably different in the UK, of course, where you can perhaps go to Opens; but why bother with driving when you could get a good strong home fleet instead?
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We had a waiting list last year at Redsmere Sailing Club
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Back in the 70s when I sailed at Papercourt in Surrey they actually had a waiting list for membership. Both water and dinghy park about half the size they are now though. In those circumstances retsricting to certain classes is obviously not going to be a problem for numbers!
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this all sounds like a very very daft idea to me, why restrict new members coming to your club?
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I think we have 450 boats in the boat park and sometimes only about 25 out racing on a Sunday.

I'm quite the opposite with last weekend off the first time for a year and this weekend the boat stays in the compund because i'm doing a duty
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Hi Redback.

We don't do badly as far as I can see. Mind you, one guy was saying that back in the early 90's he'd regularly see 70 boats out on a Sunday morning.  .  Bit of a "when I was a lad"  type thing. 

I'd already seen your article on the site. ('cause I'm a nosey b****r).

We actually have hundreds of boats in the boat park.  All flavours catered for so long as they are used and paid for.

 
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I'm very impressed with Weir Wood getting 40 boats out during the winter.  Here at Bough Beech (only about 10 miles away) we were congratulating ourselves for getting 42 the weekend before last.  We don't really have any fleets - you might like to read my article on the website about recommended boats.

http://homepages.rya-online.net/BoughBeechSC/boats.htm
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As a member of Weir Wood, I can say that there are a considerable number of Laser 2000's (about 21 ish), probably 14i (ish)  200's. 8 or 9 Fireballs, about the same number of 400's.  A few of the Enterprise sailors have moved over to Laser 2000's but still a fair turnout of Ents.  Alot of Lasers, and half a dozen 600s.  3000's are regularly out  in high winds mainly sailed by youths.  Quite a few Solos.   Big Oppie fleet.  There is also a wide spread of other classes.

Oh, nearly forgot, 6 x 2.4meter and probably the same number of ff15's

Sunday morning racing is Fast Handicap, Laser Fleet, Slow Handicap. 

Even in the direst winter sailing conditions there will be about 40 boats out on a Sunday morning.

All good fun and friendly but competative stuff, and the recommended classes suit the water.  (However I don't sail one of them).

Hope this helps.  Pop down and see us sometime.



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Hardly "debating at the moment".

It is dated 2001.

But the information on the classes is well presented and thought through, and it does seem to give a good range of different boats that are suited to the water. Does anyone know the effect 4 years later??



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Originally posted by Blobby

Just noticed this is what Weir Wood are debating at the moment...

Actually they seem to be debating recommended classes, which is not the same thing. This thread is about only allowing specific classes to race. 



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