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Jamieg ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 01 Oct 15 Location: Chippenham Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
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I know this is a very old post. I am trying to decide between a Rs Vision & Laser Bahia. simon_b what boat did you go for in the end ? I'm after some thing I can race but also some thing I can use as a bit of a day boat with family & friends up to 4 adults & small child.
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Webmuppet ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 06 Location: Suffolk Online Status: Offline Posts: 534 |
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The 'Vision T' is the basic model and the 'XL' is the more expensive model with the Gennaker fitted as standard, both use the same hull.
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IanMitchell ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
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Think you'll find the only difference is in the amount of sail carried rather than there being different sized hulls. |
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neilboys ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 28 |
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Stratos is 160kgs (keel version 100kgs heavier)so about the same as a Wayfarer....
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PeterV ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 131 |
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I'd check some of the information provided before you make a choice. I was surprised to read that the Stratos is 'several tons lighter than a Wayfarer' as I didn't think a wayfarer was very heavy for it's size. Quick search shows Stratos weighs 240kg, Wayfarer 169kg and Vision 125kg
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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Withour a doubt a Stratos is a big boat. And heavy enough to pull from the water! (I think the launch trolley has a nose wheel as standard which says it all really). That said, it is several tons lighter than a Wayfarer and the other boats on your shortlist are rotomoulded which brings its own weight penalties. My personal preference would be the Bahia. It's almost exactly the same size as a Vision but carries more sail so should be faster when you want to go for a blast. There is some justified perception that RS make racier boats than Laser and a slight bias against Laser on this forum. However, for the family market I think that Laser have come up with a really good boat with the Bahia. The Omega is bigger than the Vision and Bahia but is also a well thought out boat. It has been around a little longer than the others (I could be wrong) so there may be more scope on the second-hand market. All of these tri-lam boats are a world away from the tupperware construction of a Topper/Pico. Try them all before you buy. I haven't sailed the Omega but the others (Vision/Bahia) are much of a muchness and it may come down to how you feel in the boats. I have taught in Stratoses and they are fantastic for that but it wouldn't be my first choice to nip out for a blast. |
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simon_b ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 04 Sep 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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This is my concern with the stratos/wayfarer, some say easy to recover but I seem to recall seeing an army of people hauling a stratos up the slipway at our local sailing school..... Trouble is, its not something you can easily test out, I suspect I wouldnt really know the answer until I got the boat on the club slipway and gave it a go..... Edited by simon_b |
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FireballNeil ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 654 |
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I would have to say vision cos you dont need 576 people to get it back up the slipway
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Villan ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Nov 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1768 |
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It drains out the centerboard slot or the mast foot
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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Vision is more Laser 2000 sized inside. Stratos is almost a small yacht! And doesn't the Vision have a design bug in which the front of the cockpit fills with spray water and doesn't drain due to the solid thwart? Or is that fixed? |
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