Harrier Portsmouth Yardstick

   1090/1100 seems right by my records, what there are of them but you know if we're talking about a 35 year old sail etc... 

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JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Harrier Portsmouth Yardstick Posted: 24 Apr 07 at 10:08pm
	1090/1100 seems right by my records, what there are of them but you know if we're talking about a 35 year old sail etc...

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Apr 07 at 5:21pm
	Back in the 70's it raced off the same handicap as an Enterprise (98). For some reason, the Enterprise handicap has remained one of the most stable PY wise of all dinghies, so it would be fair to race it off the same now, I'd have thought? (1116). If it has all the original kit, sail etc, it will struggle to sail to that, though, as it must be pretty worn.
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AlexM Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 10 Jan 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 857	Post Options Post Reply Quote AlexM Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 12:59pm
	Many thanks, first look at the boat last night and it all looked very original! (at first i thought it was a 300!) 1100 looks good, when i tried to compare it with all the other single handers i was going to guess about that. It's seems so heavy. Alex

Medway Maniac Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788	Post Options Post Reply Quote Medway Maniac Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 11:57am
	I recall it had the same PY as the OK (now 1110), which surprised me at the time - the Harrier has more length and all that beam. But maybe the weight explains it? My performance predictor suggests maybe 10 points lower, i.e. 1100. But haven't people been modifying them from the original spec. just lately? EDIT: Just seen Jim's post. If they're using Phantom rigs I'd suggest knocking off another 15 points, i.e. to 1085 - pretty close to the Laser... Edited by Medway Maniac
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JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 11:44am
	I ought to have this somewhere: I had to look it up a few years ago. But same as a Laser is a good first approximation provided it has the original sail. Some have been rerigged with Phantonm rigs. The original rig can be distinguished because its got a rather nasty untapered mast with no spraders, and if you lay a Solo sail on top of the mainsail it will be the sameuntil I think the top or second but top Solo batten, at which point the Harrier sail has less roach round because the luff is about a foot longer. If the boat has the original rudder blade he needs to swap it for a longer one! Edited by JimC

AlexM Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 10 Jan 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 857	Post Options Post Reply Quote AlexM Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 11:29am
	Question… What is the handicap of this boat??? (My first thought was, what the hell is a Harrier!!) This is the only info I can find http://www.bluelightning.co.uk/Harrier/harrier1.htm One has just turned up at our club and I’ve tried to search the net for a PY number but no luck! The new owner thinks it’s around the same speed as a laser (which I’m doubting if it’s that heavy!) Alex PDSC