Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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Laser 140101 Tynemouth |
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Rs500 |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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If we're talking Winder Fireballs, then 970 would sound about right
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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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Just a little more evidence - in the recent Charity pursuit race at Hayling the HISC corrected numbers had the RS500 and Fireballs starting together. Not sure how HISC 'corrects' numbers, but as they have some good Fireballs and RS crews it appears that on their water at least speed is comparable. |
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yellowhammer ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 270 |
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Ooops, must have been ih a 'time warp' there, now corrected |
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Laser 3000 @ Leigh & Lowton SC
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Surely 2006? Unless the boat can also time-travel to before it's build date, in which case it's a real snip |
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yellowhammer ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 270 |
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From the Laser 3000 viewpoint, the original SMOD standard boat will be easier than a 500 or a V3000, as the more powerful North sails and taking weight out of the 3000 hull has made it a friskier, more skiff like ride as the wind gets up, particularly for light/young sailors. Lets face it, if you're moving into trapezing, then you want to be able to handle the boat in trapezing/planing conditions. The furling jib on the L3000 rather than a bettened jib is also an advantage for newcomers. Tall sailors / heavier combined crew weight could be better off in the 500, although recent class legal mods have freed up space in the 3000 cockpit. There are now L3000s around for sub-£2000, see the class boat list: http://www.3000class.org.uk/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=81 Since its independence from SMOD ties, the L3K can grow with you ... Tony Hunt's 2006 Nationals winning boat No. 3448 is great value at £1950, a late boat with the recent upgrades already fitted (the last L3K built was No. 3534). Learning single wire asymmetric in somthing like this, then upgrading to the new New North sails as you're getting more confident, then maybe laying out for the RS500 or V3000 could be a sensible route. The L3K shouldn't depreciate while you find out if STA is the thing for you. That is unless you've got money burning a hole in your pocket and a yearning for a brand spanker, fresh from the box ... sensible doesn't always make sence! If you do fancy a new boat then be sure to try both the RS500 and V3000 before you buy, it's probably more a matter of personal taste than differences in difficulty. Edited by yellowhammer |
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Laser 3000 @ Leigh & Lowton SC
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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Was hoping someone who's sailed both would reply to that, never mind.... as a v3000 owner, here's my two pennuth: Compared to the RS500, the V3000 has: Lower hull weight (54kg vs around 70kg) In principle the V3000 has more acceleration but probably a lower top speed (PY creeping down from the current 1030 cf RS500 PY creeping up from the predicted 960). As for stability the V3000 is surprisingly stable - so long as you're in it. Can fall over when you get out 'cause it floats so high in the water. But the Vario on which the RS500 is based, is also pretty stable - so I doubt there's much in it. But do want to find out. |
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Javelin 558
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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They've got more freeboard - but then haven't most boats got more freeboard than a 3000?
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sailor_420 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 19 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 155 |
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anyone know how they compare with the L/V3000? like stability etc
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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Yeah I was planing really well upwind unfortuneately not close enough to them to tell about pure boatspeed but overall upwing they were quicker.
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Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Presumably in a Contender you were planing upwind in those conditions - and they were quicker there too?
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