Moth or RS600FF

Originally posted by aardvark_issues And because foiling is more fun!

Out of interest, how many Mothies have sailed boards and vice versa?

Unless you could sail each at a similar level, how could anyone know which is more fun? Is foiling more fun than forward loops? More fun than geckos and goitres or head dips on the rail? More fun than going many knots faster than a Moth has gone, for more speed?

I genuinely don't know the answer - but I wonder if anyone really does? AMAC may, but he's so closely involved he's not a dispassionate judge.

One former multi world champ in Moths (pre foils) sails FW boards now and really enjoys it. FW boards are certainly not my cup of tea, but he has no plans to get into foilers. So maybe foiling isn't "more fun", it's just more fun to some people (and the best of wishes to them).
 




Edited by CT249

Plus it has been done, board on foils showed no gains over board without foils. The board without foils had a higher power to weight ratio and once fully powered up, the board would have had minimal wetted area and the foils would have increased wetted area instead of reducing it as with the moth.

Originally posted by Jimbob Why don't you would be foilers get yourself a modern sailboard? They are much faster than a foiling moth or RS600?

I'd be suprised if there are many boards that are as quick upwind as the Moth is.

Think the major difference which will become apparent when the Moth is compared to the foiling 600 will be the rig. As the boat starts foiling, the apparent wind generated shifts forward quite considerably, and bearing that in mind, the Moth rigs have been developed to aid with a low drag proile and as such can deal with the angles of attack generated by the apparent wind. The 600 rig, if undeveloped will have too much shape to it and will stall when the apparent wind shifts forward, with the effect similar to pointing too high when feathering or even sticking the boat directly into the wind. The 600s sail will reach a point where it becomes extremely innefficient when the Moth's continues to generate power effectively.

Regarding the strength of the boat. I think it would be srong enough, since it happily copes with its centre board being jumped on during its many capsizes! It is presumably very heavy (relativley) and cheap homemade foils would drag. Could be somthing to play with in the summer when the boy is home from Uni.