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stuarthop ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 22 Dec 04 Location: Nottingham Online Status: Offline Posts: 1040 |
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set sail, you must be towing a trailer which is either braked or over 750kg if not it should be perfectly legal to tow it, (though i would check yourself) i passed my test in oct 2005 and towed quite a lot without any worries, been banned more recently (speeding though) but will be back on the road and towing my boat again very soon
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HinExeter ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 17 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
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Tyres too hard will shake the boat to bits, too soft and they will get hot and possibly blow out or roll off the rim. Start at about 40psi for a mid weight boat, if the tyres get warm add 5psi and try again. If nothing warms up let 5psi out and see if it's warming up, if so put the 5 back in. If still cold let another 5 out etc. Also note the heat of the hub, if that gets warm it needs a service. The 60psi on the side wall is the max for the tyre at max load, 300kg per axcel for 8 inch I think, most boats all loaded up on the trailer will be 200kg ish so the max should not be needed. |
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combat wombat ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 345 |
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I personally have had a trailer tyre come off the rim. It wasn't
from bouncing, it was going round a roundabout and the tyre "rolled"
sideways off the rim. Wasn't going quick at all but the trailer
slid sideways and the other tyre rolled off too. This was clearly
from underinflation. Not sure what the pressures were but they
"looked" fine, probs about 20psi. Safe to say I check them
properly now before every trip.
Also, the boat should be strapped down enough to stop it bouncing on the trailer. And yes, I know you don't strap them too tight so you don't damage the hull but if the boat is loose enough to bounce on its trolley then its loose enough to bounce off the back of the trailer full stop. It depends on the boat you tow. Something like a Laser won't need high pressures but I know my B14 does, when its carrying 2 masts, the hull, sails, wings and other stuff. I don't pump the Contender tyres up as much. "i however, have to take a towing test which is a pain in the backside because i got mine after that year." If you passed after 1997, you can tow up to 750kgs without having to take an extra test, provided the gross train weight of the car and trailer does not exceed 3500kgs - http://www.direct.gov.uk/Motoring/DriverLicensing/WhatCan YouDriveAndYourObligations/WhatCanYouDriveArticles/fs/en?C ON TENT_ID=4022547&chk=oQylE9 Provided you hold the category B licence as stated on the back of your photocard licence. Edited by combat wombat |
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Jalani ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 May 05 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 164 |
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Ian 99, I'd say you haven't experienced a blowout from an over pressurised tyre - 60 and 90 psi have been mentioned here! I've seen (and helped clear up) the aftermath of a trailer tyre blowout at high speed on a French autroute and it is messy. With heavier trailers it can even overturn the towing vehicle, that gets really messy! I'm sure that somewhere here on the 'net there'll be a page with advice on tyre pressures for lightweight trailers but I can't actually be bothered to look at present. I'll stick with what I've done for 30 or so years and keep my tyres in good condition and pressures around 30psi. In possibly hundreds of thousands of miles I've had 1 blowout and maybe half a dozen flats (oh yes, and a lost wheel!!)
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SetSail ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 100 |
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well its all ok for you who have a driving licence before 1996. i however,
have to take a towing test which is a pain in the backside because i got mine after that year. this means i let the person who has to tow worry about tyre pressure. not many people know this fact. just though i'd throw this irrelevant information it into the equation. Edited by SetSail |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Ever heard of it happening? http://www.trojantrailers.co.uk/store.php?faq=4 doesn't appear to suggest it is a risk. I thought everyone who towed dinghies regularly used low tyre pressures. AFAIK it is standard advice and I'm pretty astonished with some of the suggestions on this thread. |
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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Once towed at over 90 mph towing a Vortex south from Liverpool. Apologies to anyone on the M6 that I may have passed. With the "lift" effect of the hull shape I don't think the tyres were entirely relevant at that speed. (Speeding is wrong, it endangers lives and is illegal. However, the ferry had docked 2 hours late and I was due to meet the guy who was going to buy the Vortex.) |
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Ian99 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 07 Apr 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 138 |
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At 25psi with those small tyres, I'd have thought there's a fairly high risk you'll hit a bump and stretch the bead away from the rim enough to lose all the air in the tyre. I'm sure that somewhere there must be a list of tyre pressures for axle loads for tyres, but I think 6 ply tyres go up to 75psi at maximum axle load of about 500kg. Remember as well that those small wheels are only rated up to 60mph - anything above this they start to get seriously warm! Not that anyone ever exceeds the speed limit with a trailer of course If you can, fit ten inch wheels with radial tyres - these allow a maximum speed of 150kph Having experienced a "blowout" on a boat trailer on the motorway a few months back (not my trailer) I can say with reasonable authority that it is a complete non event in comparison to one on a car due to the trailer being so light. My passenger (the owner of the boat and trailer!) didn't even realise there was anything major wrong - he thought the banging was the trailer strap come loose. On getting out though, having coasted down from about 50 to 0mph, there wasn't much left of the mudguard, interesting skid marks on the side of the boat, and no sign of any tyre left (spread over about 1/4 of a mile of M4), just a completely destroyed wheel rim. |
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Jalani ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 May 05 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 164 |
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I'd second the comments about being wary of over-inflation. Many tyres have a MAX Pressure figure on them. That doesn't mean that's the pressure you should use. With loads as light as dinghies 25-35psi is the range we should all be working in. If you over pressurise your tyres (for the load you're carrying) you'll
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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I'd be a lot more worried about killing your hull. Trailing is bad for hulls but softer tyres are better because the boat is bounced around less. I really wouldn't pump dinghy trailer tyres to the max. 25psi should be plenty. Keelboat trailer tyres are different and need high pressure, due to the weight of the boat. Regarding changing tyres, I think it is pretty difficult to DIY without the tools that tyre shops use to peel the tyre on and off the wheel. A good type shop will change a trailer tyre for you - I've had to get it done due to a puncture.
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