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    Posted: 15 Feb 07 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by Blobby

Agree with that - and add in sunblock dripping into your eyes because fo the sweat

 

Childrens sun cream does not sting !  I use it all the time.

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Agree with that - and add in sunblock dripping into your eyes because fo the sweat and goggles are almost a must...once sailed for an hour with no.1 crew in a good 15kts in a 420 and crew with his eyes shut the whoel time because the goggles had been left behind...

...and he still came out with me again!

Cleating up or down - I find the boom cleating great as you don't have the mainsheet tight in the middle of the boat getting in your way the whole time.  When you are out on the wire it works well because the sheeting angle means the main is naturally out of the cleat and then you can lift the sheet into the cleat when you need to.  I haven't had any problems with the sheet falling out of the cleat when I didn't want it to.

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Do all your crews wear swimming goggles ...

I offered my non-sailing nephew a ride in the MPS on a windy day and he ran off and came back with swimming goggles on which I took as a vote of no confidence in my abilty to keep the boat upright but then he informed me that they were prescription goggles ... he had a good time!!

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My 6 year old routinely wears one when we sail together. Its a function of height I suppose. Simple splash from the waves hit me in the midsection but hits her right in the face when we are both sitting on the gunnel. She is very happy to go sailing as long as her eyes don't burn all the time!!!

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Blobby, thanks for the photo. This looks easy & cheap enough to try. I saw another option mentioned on SA forum which uses a different approach... See this thread for a posting by Corksfloat

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=483 61

Essentially he installed a ratchet + swivel base cleat on the central grab bar. Looks like a very clean installation if not a little more costly upfront but with the benefit of no additional holes in your rig.

So the question is whether cleating up or cleating down is most appropriate in the 29er when you are on the wire. I actually think cleating down might be tough and may require you to bend your knees to go low closer to the cleat hight. Will ask Corksfloat about this.

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Originally posted by 43251

surely it's really hard to uncleat, what with your natural motion to pull the rope up to uncleat?

When you are trapese-helming you are at a higher angle than when sitting-in so it's easier to "cleat-up". Also, with gravity working the way it does, once the sheet is uncleated there is little tendency to recleat.

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Do all your crews wear swimming goggles ...

I offered my non-sailing nephew a ride in the MPS on a windy day and he ran off and came back with swimming goggles on which I took as a vote of no confidence in my abilty to keep the boat upright but then he informed me that they were prescription goggles ... he had a good time!!

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Originally posted by 43251

surely it's really hard to uncleat, what with your natural motion to pull the rope up to uncleat?

A few of cats are a 'pull down' to uncleat. Enterprise jib cleats are 'pull back' to uncleat. It isn't hard to switch.

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surely it's really hard to uncleat, what with your natural motion to pull the rope up to uncleat?
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Originally posted by Blobby

As requested by NickA this is what I have done to my 29er to make sailing with a very young crew or singlehanding easier...if I did it again I would use the Holt ball bearing swivel cleat.

 

Just for K_Kirk - Kerem this is what I have done with the cleat for the main...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Blobby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 06 at 4:21am

That is the stand-in crew (Alec aged 5 1/2) the real crew is 2 1/2 years older but not much bigger!

Filing off the edges - yep needs to be done but I wanted to see if it worked first.

I did get a cracking sail in on Saturday in 12 - 15kts, sunshine and 32 Degrees.  Tipped it in twice to start with whilst the cobwebs while remembering how to sail but after that is was just fantastic...

No problems with the rotation at all - then main sheet is naturally in the front hand and pulls the cleat round the right way when tacking / gybing.  I have no problem with the drag on the sheet - and I have put in an auto ratchet on the transom hawse so it all goes in and out very smoothly.

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