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    Posted: 19 Jun 06 at 1:56pm

The trick, as demonstrated at the Vago open at Queen Mary yesterday, is a roll tack with a pump at the end. If that dosen't work then sheeting out followed by a strong pull down and across with the boom usually does the trick. In lighter winds the batten tension should be loosened. In respect of the rig, the Vago is designed with a low tension rig.

In respect of sailing the Vago it must be sailed flat and if the nose is out of the water then you haven't got enough weight forward! 

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Originally posted by Wave Rider

ps. not sure if it matters on an alu mast, but as a general rule, leaving loads of tenntion on forever isn't a great idea unless you want a very banana shaped mast.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wave Rider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 06 at 9:43pm

Whilst crewing a Cherub which was new to the helm he had to experiment with many different things to make the battens pop.

1. As said above, do sheet in and sit down heavily so, hopefully, the added air pressure on the sails pushes the battens through and you don't want to loosten the battens too much otherwsie this 'flicking' will have very little affect.

2. If you can't flick them in light air by changing the sail controls (kicker tensioning the leech often helps) then you have to result to make bend im afraid.

For the battens to flick  the mast bend must match the sail curvature... im afraid i can't picture the Vago XD rig shape...

So bend the mast quite a bit with the shrouds and forestay, to make this easier on one shroud push the boom, with the sail on, hard over to one shroud so the 'windward' (this is on land...ok) shroud is much slacker, then do this with the other and you should then induce quite a lot of pre-bend.

Hopefully this will help it in light airs, if you need more bend (god its a badly cut sail) then you will have to use the sail controls.

Only problem is now, although your battens may be popping, you are going to have one VERY flat sail and nicely depowered so erm... im not sure what your light air performance will be like!

ps. not sure if it matters on an alu mast, but as a general rule, leaving loads of tenntion on forever isn't a great idea unless you want a very banana shaped mast.

Hope thats vaguely helpful, although i imagine it's mainly technique!

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As a crew I find that giving the cunningham a sharp tug when the helm is trying to pop the battens often helps. Just have to remember to have it cleated on the 'old' side before the tack/gybe and not to cleat it in too hard after the manoeuver...

 

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Thanks for all your suggestions.

We'll give them all a try next time we're out

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote gonzo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 06 at 6:11am

still plastic never going to get a high perfromance plastic boat are you

Supposed to be a more high performance than a feva type of boat for clubs that are trying to promote high performance dinghys.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote olly_love Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 06 at 11:31pm

must be. cause it is a large section looks built to last. but the quiality of the rest of th efittings is up to laser quality...... crap

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote m_liddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 06 at 11:24pm

Originally posted by olly_love

talking about mast bend. i cannot understand on that boat how it has a untapered mast. 

Cost I'm sure.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote olly_love Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 06 at 10:00pm

talking about mast bend. i cannot understand on that boat how it has a untapered mast.  does it not need it cause it has a fat head mainsail.

was out the otherday in bout 15 knots and it seemed really fast however when we speed checked it was wuite slow.  has a massive problem with the bow going high. no mattetr where u sit

not a race boat like laser said more a training boat

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