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Harry44981! ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 736 |
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...and the spinny and jib. The 49er spinny looks far more striking as a whole flag, than the rectangular flags on the 470 kites. |
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Guest ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
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This is a good point ... if you have a fleet with afrew sponsored sailors it's always the boats with big logos on their sails who end up on the magazine pages ... they just look more interesting. They should make the whole main the national flag. Rick |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Putting national flags onto the sails was a slight move in that direction. Personally I think all of this is fighting yesterday's battles. The days when TV companies would put huge money into sport appear to be over. It was about getting settop boxes into people's homes but that phase it over. See what has happened to the amount Murdoch is prepared to pay for UK football coverage as an illustration of that trend. Edited by Stefan Lloyd |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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Sorry, I missed out a the vital bit in that post (but put it in the
later post); I wonder whether they were asked what they would like the
sport to do apart from changing the major aspects (as they have done).
The things I was thinking about are whether the racing could be changed in minor ways to make it more attractive visually, whereas it seems that they have just tried to make the storyline different by introducing a cliffhanger last race. I was wondering about things like large rounding marks (or boats instead of buoys) with camera crews aboard so they can get close-in pics; mandatory bright and colourful sails (art directors love them to bits). As an example, I was at a friend's today and they had a 1995 coffee table picture book on San Francisco.. The opening spread was windsurfers, but judging from the sails the pic was probably 1986. Many other people have noted that many of the windsurfing pics you see in general advertising are of the colourful '80s sails. The modern monofilm stuff just doesn't turn the art directors on. If the art directors I've always worked with are typical, they want crisp pics (which generally means allowing photographers to get close to the races) of colourful boats and sails. From their perspective, whether it's a cliffhanger finale or whether the boat is fast or slow is of absolutely zero importance compared to the aesthetics of the pic. You'd think ISAF has probably already done this, but we are dealing with a mob who "updated" the Olympic windsurfer to something that will probably be a lot slower (in 2008 conditions) and is much less colourful than the Mistral was. |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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I think you will find that ISAF has been steered pretty firmly on this point. Why do you think the recent regatta format changes were made? |
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hurricane ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1047 |
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they do that on the round texel cat race you can watch live on the internet it works really well! |
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lifes to short to sail slow boats!
RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007 |
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Blobby ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 May 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 779 |
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I have been involved in 2 sets of filming of sailing for TV. Both lots involved a full day of filming for 2 minutes coverage, doing stuff repeatedly for them including repeating meaningless moving bits of kit when you put them in the wrong place "because the shot was interesting and the light was great from that angle" From that I would say have multiple laps of short courses, lots of boat handling action so they get a load of repeated fottage so good choice on edits and the ability to get in close to the action... ...tie that in to gps on each boat to tie in to computer simulations of who is leading at any time and you are onto a winner. |
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One step forwards, 2 steps back...
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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VERY good point! I should have thought of that.
Maybe the question should be "we're not going to change the substance of what we do, but how can we help you make it look good". |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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asking the tv people what they want from sailing sounds like a good idea too, just as long as we remember we dont have to do everything they want.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
Also International 14, 1318 |
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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Now an A with a Kite, that would be a good idea. |
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Wanna learn to Ski - PM me..
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