Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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skslr ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 06 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 139 |
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Beneteau 14 comes to mind...
Very light, but not exactly as stable as a Wayfarer
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ColPrice2002 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 222 |
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There's a range of 2 handers around - if you liked the Wayfarer (apart from hauling up the ramp!) there's the Wanderer - 14' smaller brother of the Wayfarer (same designer).
That one is a lot lighter, but still has room for 2-3 adults, GRP hull - avoiding the problems with the plywood Mirrors & Miracles. Go visit your local clubs and see what's popular and practical Colin
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Not sure how a Mirror cockpit can have less room than a Heron as it's slightly wider, has no side decks and, while 3" shorter it has a pram bow so carries the extra width further forward (and it has no foredeck). The Heron is a lovely boat though, I learned to race in one.
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
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SoggyBadger ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Oct 10 Location: The Wild Wood Online Status: Offline Posts: 552 |
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There's a lot more room in a Heron than a Mirror. The boom is a lot higher too which really helps, especially for the crew. The average lady should have no trouble fitting into the front of one. Finding a race-competitive on one would be a challenge though as such boats rarely seem to come onto the market. A Gull would be another option.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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That would help, good practice for mooring to a buoy if you take up yachting.
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Alfachats ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 09 Jul 21 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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We use a club boat, they are kept on moorings for the season.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Wayfarer staggeringly heavier than any of the boats mentioned, how did you launch?
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Firefly is 74kg hull weight, the Lightning 368 is 54, and the extra sail and associated bits and you're looking at the Firefly being least 30-35kg heavier than the Lightning.
The Heron is another option for a single and double hander but has the same issues as the Mirror for two adults, i.e. limited space I the cockpit. The class rules (like the Mirror) allow them to be raced singlehanded though which may be important. If racing is not important but space in the boat is (at the cost of some extra weight) I'd suggest the Enterprise and get either a set of used Firefly sails or have some Ent cruising sails made for sailing it solo. The standard rig is a handful for one in any sort of breeze. Weightwise they're heavier at 95kg hull weight but the all up sailing weight of around 125kg is still manageable off the water unless the slipway/beach is steep. The Ent is somewhat more lively than a Waybarge (as anything so much lighter will be) but is well mannered and refined boat.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Miracle 77kg all up weight.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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The 118kg is all up weight, never felt heavy to me, Enterprise felt heavier and GP14 felt like pulling a car.
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