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skslr
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Topic: 2 person dinghy that can be single handedPosted: 28 Aug 23 at 11:59am |
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Beneteau 14 comes to mind...
Very light, but not exactly as stable as a Wayfarer
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ColPrice2002
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Posted: 27 Aug 23 at 4:28pm |
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There's a range of 2 handers around - if you liked the Wayfarer (apart from hauling up the ramp!) there's the Wanderer - 14' smaller brother of the Wayfarer (same designer).
That one is a lot lighter, but still has room for 2-3 adults, GRP hull - avoiding the problems with the plywood Mirrors & Miracles. Go visit your local clubs and see what's popular and practical Colin
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 25 Aug 23 at 6:21pm |
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Not sure how a Mirror cockpit can have less room than a Heron as it's slightly wider, has no side decks and, while 3" shorter it has a pram bow so carries the extra width further forward (and it has no foredeck). The Heron is a lovely boat though, I learned to race in one.
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Posted: 24 Aug 23 at 4:17pm |
There's a lot more room in a Heron than a Mirror. The boom is a lot higher too which really helps, especially for the crew. The average lady should have no trouble fitting into the front of one. Finding a race-competitive on one would be a challenge though as such boats rarely seem to come onto the market. A Gull would be another option.
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423zero
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Posted: 23 Aug 23 at 2:58pm |
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That would help, good practice for mooring to a buoy if you take up yachting.
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Posted: 23 Aug 23 at 2:10pm |
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We use a club boat, they are kept on moorings for the season.
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423zero
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Posted: 23 Aug 23 at 2:00pm |
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Wayfarer staggeringly heavier than any of the boats mentioned, how did you launch?
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 23 Aug 23 at 1:41pm |
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Firefly is 74kg hull weight, the Lightning 368 is 54, and the extra sail and associated bits and you're looking at the Firefly being least 30-35kg heavier than the Lightning.
The Heron is another option for a single and double hander but has the same issues as the Mirror for two adults, i.e. limited space I the cockpit. The class rules (like the Mirror) allow them to be raced singlehanded though which may be important. If racing is not important but space in the boat is (at the cost of some extra weight) I'd suggest the Enterprise and get either a set of used Firefly sails or have some Ent cruising sails made for sailing it solo. The standard rig is a handful for one in any sort of breeze. Weightwise they're heavier at 95kg hull weight but the all up sailing weight of around 125kg is still manageable off the water unless the slipway/beach is steep. The Ent is somewhat more lively than a Waybarge (as anything so much lighter will be) but is well mannered and refined boat.
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Posted: 23 Aug 23 at 12:06pm |
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Miracle 77kg all up weight.
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423zero
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Posted: 23 Aug 23 at 12:04pm |
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The 118kg is all up weight, never felt heavy to me, Enterprise felt heavier and GP14 felt like pulling a car.
Not sure many double handers will be much lower than 100kgs. |
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