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    Posted: 16 Aug 22 at 4:50pm
Thanks for the useful comments. I have in mind that it might be a 5 min wonder so not wanting to spend a lot. Also have it in mind that we do not want to join a sailing club as likely use only half a dozen times a year. Toppaz with trailer looking best option.
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Originally posted by Paramedic

Not sure how heavy a Topaz is, Picos are quite heavy.

The both weigh 60kg, the Topaz is a little bigger than the Pico though at 3.86 x 1.45m compared to 3.5 x 1.37m. The Topaz can be sailed by two adults, I have done so in a blow and it was a good laugh but I wouldn't usually bother. Ok for a single adult though or two kids.


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Originally posted by Demelza

If considering one of these for 12 year old grandchildren what are the pros and cons of each and preferred boat?


What's your budget?
Two old toppers might be more fun to 'sail in company'/race, rather than arguing about who's helming?
Or even Laser 4.7?
I wouldn't spend proper money on either a Topaz or a Pico for personal use, but the Pico is certainly a fine boat for its purpose, and I expect the Topaz is similar but I've never sailed one personally.
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Our club has both, sailed both a lot.

Pico, lighter and smaller, favoured by children, mast is lighter
Topaz Uno, heavier and bigger, too difficult for some children the right after capsize. Board is very high out of the water.
Pico parts are expensive
None of the Topaz bits have been lost or broken yet.
Buy one from Fresh water. All the stainless steel and aluminium connections corrode really badly on both if used on salt water and not washed (normal)
I'd buy the Pico. 
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Just a thought for any second hand purchase...

Pico spares (e.g. rudder, daggerboard) are quite expensive  relative to the cost of the package. Check that all are present and in good order before buying.
I assume that the Topaz costs are similar.

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Both boats are from well established manufacturers, shouldn't cost a lot if bought 2nd hand, and if your grandchildren don't take to sailing you can always sell them again for most if not all of what you paid for them. My daughters had a Pico for a bit when they were around 12, can't comment on the Topaz. With hindsight a Topper might have been better at that age as my girls were probably a bit small for a Pico at that time.  It's a great sport, I was about that age when I started and still have friends from that era coming up on 50 years later !     Find a local club you all like as you can probably hire/lend boats first anyway. 
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^^^Also very true within the bands of reason^^^
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Buy them whatever their mates or potential mates are sailing. Sailing around on your own probably is not that much fun. 
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Not sure how heavy a Topaz is, Picos are quite heavy.
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Thanks for the info.
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