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    Posted: 27 Jul 20 at 9:35pm
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sorry to ask late but is the stability of a Heron similar to a Gull? also do you know if it has seats inside please?


Initial stability of the Heron is slightly higher due to it being single chine but there's not a lot in it really. Yes they do have inner seats. They're certainly more budget-friendly that Gulls, where even well-used ones seem to have really high asking prices.

Thank you I haven’t found any grp Herons but have (maybe) found a Gull and yes they are really expensive I agree. 
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Originally posted by SoggyBadger

Originally posted by SueW

Originally posted by Rupert

Sailed the Heron a few times, never really thought that much of it. Like a small GP14. Somehow the Mirror seems like a better boat for the size, with loads more space because of the bow transom and open deck layout. Better than the Gull in my view too, but maybe not for your purposes.

I am 5 ft 10 and 13 yr old is 5ft 11 and still growing I presumed we would be too big in a Mirror? 


The boom on the mirror is very low. They're great little boats but a Gull or a Heron would be better for your daughter.

Thank you I guessed as much but it is good to know, we are going to view a Gull on Wednesday and hopefully buy it. 
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Low boom easily solved - set the gaff higher - but I think there would be other issues with layout too.
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Originally posted by SueW

Originally posted by Rupert

Sailed the Heron a few times, never really thought that much of it. Like a small GP14. Somehow the Mirror seems like a better boat for the size, with loads more space because of the bow transom and open deck layout. Better than the Gull in my view too, but maybe not for your purposes.

I am 5 ft 10 and 13 yr old is 5ft 11 and still growing I presumed we would be too big in a Mirror? 


The boom on the mirror is very low. They're great little boats but a Gull or a Heron would be better for your daughter.
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Originally posted by SueW


sorry to ask late but is the stability of a Heron similar to a Gull? also do you know if it has seats inside please?


Initial stability of the Heron is slightly higher due to it being single chine but there's not a lot in it really. Yes they do have inner seats. They're certainly more budget-friendly that Gulls, where even well-used ones seem to have really high asking prices.
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You might feel like you are more "on top" of the boat in a Mirror. If you can, jump in one and see. Same for all the boats.
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Originally posted by Rupert

Sailed the Heron a few times, never really thought that much of it. Like a small GP14. Somehow the Mirror seems like a better boat for the size, with loads more space because of the bow transom and open deck layout. Better than the Gull in my view too, but maybe not for your purposes.

I am 5 ft 10 and 13 yr old is 5ft 11 and still growing I presumed we would be too big in a Mirror? 
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Heron - more stable than a Gul

Has seats in board

Has enough deck to sit on to hike if desired (unlike a mirror which digs into your legs)

Light enough to pull back up a slip single handed.

Modern FRPs rarely come up second hand though...
Modern ones very well designed in terms of layout etc

Can have under deck storage if desired.

It's a small GP (that's how it was designed) and a pointy mirror (the mirror was an easier build).

You want a bermuden rigged one, a d definitely not 100% Genoa

In 15 years - accidentally capsized once and have no idea what I did - was between races just reaching and bang.. have raced hard - water over the gunwales etc dump the sail and she sits back up. Sailed with 3 year old kid and adults.

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I have sailed my Mirror 2 handed, crew and helm, both adults.
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Sailed the Heron a few times, never really thought that much of it. Like a small GP14. Somehow the Mirror seems like a better boat for the size, with loads more space because of the bow transom and open deck layout. Better than the Gull in my view too, but maybe not for your purposes.
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