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    Posted: 19 Apr 19 at 5:52am
Thanks iGRF. Looks like a good tip; progrip is good but isn't easy or really suited to small areas which need grip.
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And it worked, got round in a gusty North Easterly tonight, didn't stack it once and other than an idiot spell in irons with a tad too much kicker, it went OK.
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Originally posted by The Moo

Bet it looks like a Dalek now

A very small one anyway  LOL
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Bet it looks like a Dalek now
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It's done. Went down last night and big dotted it a treat...
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If you want to go low key, then the translucent grip tape designed for showers and the like is grippy enough under a boot.
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They look like the things to stop cupboard doors bumping walls!
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I shall probably try these first, snow board traction which will let the carbon show through.Since I just happen to have hundreds of them left over from a previous life..https://www.corekite.co.uk/amplifi-large-dots-547-p.asp



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Originally posted by Granite

Originally posted by iGRF

So, here's an idea I'm thinking about. I'm trying to convince folk I come in contact with on the option of a 'kit' in carbon, to bring the self builders into the now. There is already a ply self build thing going on with the Farr and several folk have built their own, but, they end up like my first iteration, wood and whatever you think about it, wood needs looking after and is more susceptible to idiots like me puncturing it with our harness hooks. OK carbon might get scratched but it should be more resistant to puncture and the price of carbon is so much more reasonable now especially in sheet form.
Does anyone think there would be an appetite for a self build class for kids, if there were say significant prize money at say a national event once a year? Obviously Dad would have to help, but this boat is ideal for youngster moving into the realms of trapeze sailing, I wonder if such a carrot might help a)Getting kids into actually building things and b)growing this class a bit. Just a thought. It's an absolute joy to sail once you get the knack and being on the wire is a great relief from knee and back pain from hiking hence it's appeal to us oldies, I dunno, it just need some sort of shove to get wider appeal.


Last year I built a Cherub a bit like this to a Clive Everest design. The deck and bulkheads were all made from CNC cut foam carbon panels and were bonded together with tape to make the shape. The hull was made on a male mould from loads of CNC cut foam panels which were sanded smooth on the outside before being laminated. If you were going for a more chined shape you could probably do it all with precut foam carbon panels and a reasonably simple jig.


In some ways, in general, we are looking in the wrong area to make boats easier to build. The area that we need to make easier is the Mould. A CNC file for a click together male mold would actually take a whole heap of the worry out of what is an already sorted set of CNC hull build files. No worries about - 'is my boat going to be square' 'is my boat going to measure'. Because you are building over a certified CNC flat pack jig with certified CNC panels.

Clive's Cherub design is a great one but is a design within a box set rule class. You can design a shape to fit a clever construction technique. Whereas the Farr 3.7 is a one design hull with pretty tight margins. So there isn't so much room for construction innovation.

Nigel Waller and Rob Pebbles, Jo Richards reputedly built a basic Punkarella N12 hull in one night after the pub, by folding ply. Having designed it in the pub by folding beer mats. But again this is a box rule class. You can build boats simply in lots of ways. It gets challenging when the boat has to be a certain shape and simply built.

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GRF thinks progrip looks messy. Mr Zog is much worse!

Lets face it, neither would win the boat pimping stakes, but staying upright has more going for it!
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