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    Posted: 07 Aug 18 at 1:48pm
Isn't that a one lap time trial, at whatever time you choose during the day, in any boat you want? More like a qualifying lap in F1

Andy Rice's proposal is you do one longer lap, at a time of your choosing, inter-spaced between normal laps as part of a fleet race. More like pit-stops in F1. 


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Bala Sailing club already do this. They have been running the event for the last 2 years. I think Bala thought of this before Andy Rice. 

Format works well and you can pick what time in the day you want to run your flying lap. You can also run more that one boat, so father can run his boat and then do another lap with his son in another boat. 

Write up for one of the events is here!! As will all these types of events it is just a case of getting the word out to interested sailors. 
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Noah, absolutely can be tactical, would have to be well set angle though as to tight its a two/one sail fetch and too low and you lose that particular element of when to choose to hoist.
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Making a three-sail reach marginal makes tactical choices necessary. Go high & pop later; Pop early & hope for a lift or pressure drop so you don't have to drop to make the mark. Is there an assy equivalent to the Aussie Drop? Crew weight comes into it, of course, but doesn't it always?
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Originally posted by L123456

Originally posted by Oli

on a WL just have another windward mark set further up the course say 1/4 mile

Nah; put put a wing mark in which is really marginal about getting there with the kite .... would be a great addition IMHO.

don't know anyone who likes tight reaching in a musto skiff or similar, spectators may though, but would enjoy the extra downwind leg length.
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I can see it offers some tactical 'gaming' opportunities.
In a PY race, it might be good for breaking up the procession.

But in a championship, where we'd normally move marks each lap if the wind shifts, I can see a lot of complication for dubious benefit.
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Posts: 500 		Post Options Post Options   Quote L123456 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 18 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by Oli

on a WL just have another windward mark set further up the course say 1/4 mile

Nah; put put a wing mark in which is really marginal about getting there with the kite .... would be a great addition IMHO.
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Nightmare scenario for safety cover widening the beat still further, but other than that I like the idea.
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Posts: 2538 		Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Aug 18 at 9:05am
It sounds like a great idea - and can only really be assessed by testing it across different categories of boat, handicap vs class race and potentially across the wind range too (planing reaching legs would be different from long bobbing ones).  

My only other point: nice to see someone actually giving some thought about keeping the mid fleet engaged in the overall racing process.     
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