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    Posted: 26 Oct 17 at 10:44pm
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Wrong thread!

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It is unusual for dinghy clubs to launch/recover from multiple locations.

The simple answer, as adopted by many, is to make signing off (or posting the tally) a requirement and any boat failing to do so is automatically marked DNF. In davidyacht's case, if you introduce it to a club that has not done it in the past you are bound to upset some people so if your present system works it's probably better to leave it alone (though I'd still be slightly concerned that you don't have a means of ensuring everybody got ashore safely).
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

That (combined with your user name) sounds like you are a keelboat racing club? Don't they all have VHF? If so why can't they sign off by radio? Also, from a health and safety, surely you need some means of knowing all are safe home?

Reminds me of where I used to sail. We (a dinghy club) shared the water with the local yacht racing. We also shared a VHF channel. Trying to communicate with our support boats at times became impossible, while the yachts did their tally in and count down over the VHF. Not infrequently one of them would leave their mic on in the cockpit during their race and you could hear them swearing at each other as they blocked our communication with our motor boats. Kind of entertaining, but also bl**dy annoying.
 
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Originally posted by davidyacht

... we have set up a system that allows competitors to advise the RC of any perceived errors in the results, without the need to call a PC.  

There is no need to call a PC to correct scoring errors. The only time you need a hearing for scoring errors is if there's disagreement.
But if there is any disagreement I think you do need to call a PC.

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Originally posted by davidyacht

Don’t race yachts and don’t race on open sea.
Is that a personal statement or supposed good advice?
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No, was a brief response in response to JC’s post.  We race dinghies in a harbour.  In the race office we check boats in, record who we consider has finished and who we consider to have retired ... if there are any left overs we account for them.  We run laid back family week long regattas and all attempts to have a signing on and signing off system have previously failed.  

We try to mark those that we consider to have retired as RTD and those who have infringed with the appropriate monicker, occasionally it does not work, in which case we have set up a system that allows competitors to advise the RC of any perceived errors in the results, without the need to call a PC.  

It seems to work for us.
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Originally posted by davidyacht

Don’t race yachts and don’t race on open sea.
Is that a personal statement or supposed good advice?
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Don’t race yachts and don’t race on open sea.


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If I'm running a race, it is important to know all are finished or retired. A boat disappears at sea, chances are some sort of search will be called. Poor form if they just sailed off without informing someone.
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

That (combined with your user name) sounds like you are a keelboat racing club? Don't they all have VHF? If so why can't they sign off by radio? Also, from a health and safety, surely you need some means of knowing all are safe home?
If it's a keelboat race and, as usual, the equipment safety rules require the boats to be self righting and adequately equipped, in accordance with, among other things rule 1.2, and bearing in mind rule 4, why should the club 'need some means of knowing all are safe home'?

Rule 1.2 Life-Saving Equipment and Personal Flotation Devices
A boat shall carry adequate life-saving equipment for all persons on board, including one item ready for immediate use, unless her class rules make some other provision. Each competitor is individually responsible for wearing a personal flotation device adequate for the conditions.

4 DECISION TO RACE
The responsibility for a boat’s decision to participate in a race or to continue racing is hers alone.


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