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    Posted: 28 Feb 14 at 2:25pm
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Thanks, that sounds like good advice! With the handicap, does the 300 'work' for handicap racing, as it is 995, which surely means it's hard to be competitive in this type of racing?


Now 990 (and we're not complaining). It's absolutely fine as the handicap goes and it is competitive on handicap once you have learned to sail the boat properly. You're a bit light for a B (big) rig at 60kg (the lightest B rig helm at last year's Nationals was 68), but you could probably get away with it inland in most conditions. The A rig is slightly less sail area but the rig is a lot bendier so less powerful.


We have one 16 year old in the fleet already,who's doing rather well. http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/174777/Crewsaver-Tipsy-Icicle-Series-day-8 That's him in the pic.

Thanks,this has sort of made up my mind, as the handicap was one of the things that I was most unsure of!



 

I would still recommend having a go in one before buying.


And we're using 980 as H'cap at L&L
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I really would not recommend a trapeze boat at South Cerney, its a small lake lined with trees and holiday homes.  Which will have more holiday homes built around it in the very near future.  It will be flukey as hell!  There are a couple of 300's at South Cerney now, so why not ask if you can have a go.  Gary Morris is a nice guy and i'm sure he will be keen to grow the fleet.  (It has always just about started to build then dropped off in the past)  If you want fleet racing you wont beat a Solo there, but you will need a very bendy rig and will be making firends with blokes 4 times your age.  

If it were me i would be looking at a Streaker and trying to build a fleet of like minded friends. 

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Originally posted by Dignhysailor

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Originally posted by Dignhysailor

Thanks, that sounds like good advice! With the handicap, does the 300 'work' for handicap racing, as it is 995, which surely means it's hard to be competitive in this type of racing?

Now 990 (and we're not complaining). It's absolutely fine as the handicap goes and it is competitive on handicap once you have learned to sail the boat properly. You're a bit light for a B (big) rig at 60kg (the lightest B rig helm at last year's Nationals was 68), but you could probably get away with it inland in most conditions. The A rig is slightly less sail area but the rig is a lot bendier so less powerful.

We have one 16 year old in the fleet already,who's doing rather well. http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/174777/Crewsaver-Tipsy-Icicle-Series-day-8 That's him in the pic.
Thanks,this has sort of made up my mind, as the handicap was one of the things that I was most unsure of!
 
I would still recommend having a go in one before buying.
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I'm not trying to dissuade you from a 300- they are great boats - however if you wanted to demo a Farr before finally spending four grand on something, then it might be worth hooking up with Jack Sparrow via PM on here.

There is a boat at Draycote- a lovely one - we're only an hour or so up the Fosse Way from South Cerney, 'Jack' could probably sort out a quick ride.  

FWIW- If I were 16 again the one skill I really wish I'd nailed into the memory bank was decent trapezing.  It opens up a world of amazing boats - either as a crew or a helm - when you're a bit older and skills take a bit longer to sink in.  At 16 I f**ked my knees up on a Laser instead.....  

Just a thought... enjoy whatever you get anyway.
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Originally posted by Steve411

Originally posted by Dignhysailor

Thanks, that sounds like good advice! With the handicap, does the 300 'work' for handicap racing, as it is 995, which surely means it's hard to be competitive in this type of racing?

Now 990 (and we're not complaining). It's absolutely fine as the handicap goes and it is competitive on handicap once you have learned to sail the boat properly. You're a bit light for a B (big) rig at 60kg (the lightest B rig helm at last year's Nationals was 68), but you could probably get away with it inland in most conditions. The A rig is slightly less sail area but the rig is a lot bendier so less powerful.

We have one 16 year old in the fleet already,who's doing rather well. http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/174777/Crewsaver-Tipsy-Icicle-Series-day-8 That's him in the pic.
Thanks,this has sort of made up my mind, as the handicap was one of the things that I was most unsure of!
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Originally posted by Dignhysailor

Thanks, that sounds like good advice! With the handicap, does the 300 'work' for handicap racing, as it is 995, which surely means it's hard to be competitive in this type of racing?

Now 990 (and we're not complaining). It's absolutely fine as the handicap goes and it is competitive on handicap once you have learned to sail the boat properly. You're a bit light for a B (big) rig at 60kg (the lightest B rig helm at last year's Nationals was 68), but you could probably get away with it inland in most conditions. The A rig is slightly less sail area but the rig is a lot bendier so less powerful.

We have one 16 year old in the fleet already,who's doing rather well. http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/174777/Crewsaver-Tipsy-Icicle-Series-day-8 That's him in the pic.
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If you can get to the dinghy show this weekend, I'd recommend it.  You can see all the boats, and speak to their sailors - who will of course all tell you their boat is best.  Many of them will also know of people who will let you have a try before you buy.  Getting them all in your brain in one day (and take a camera/smartphone and even be geeky and write some notes on each) will make it easier to compare.
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Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

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Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

May I suggest.... a Farr 3.7.... 60kg is perfect.

http://www.uk3-7class.org/index.html

Designed by Bruce Farr...
Now being built in the UK by Butler Boats...

http://www.butlerboats.biz/farr.php

Come and see us at the Dinghy Show...

I'm sorry, while they look awesome, I am not getting a trapezing boat because my lake is not large enough. Also, Farr 3.7s are (or appear to be) wooden, which again is not what I  want- too much upkeep time/ money! Thank you very much for your idea,but  unfortunately the practicalities do not work!


Composite boats are available from Butler Boats for roughly the same price as wooden.

I've not sailed on South Cerney but I do know of it. One of the cool things about the Farr 3.7 is its ability to work on restricted waters. Think of it like a Laser with the ability to stand on the side up wind! Hamilton in NZ is a small tree lined lake, as are a couple of the locations those pictures were taken.

Just thought you should know that the Farr 3.7's out there and with thinking about.

Does the Farr have a PY number, important for south carney racing where it's all handicap racing? Also, how many boats are there in the UK?
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Jamie- Cotswolds water park. It would be perfect if it weren't for the bit of land joining it all together. ;-).
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It would be- a good suggestion there for exploring trapeze options.
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