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    Posted: 04 Sep 13 at 4:11pm
I never go to Brighton, best find someone who does LOL
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Originally posted by transient

Someone had better tell him then.

Well volunteered  Wink
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Someone had better tell him then.
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Yep- it's far less hassle to go into the department store and pick up small, medium or large.  

A tailor made suit doesn't make you a more productive employee and in some circumstances, can make you look a bit of tit....



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Originally posted by transient

every sector has it's fair share of awkward customers. Wink

At the end of the day a West End smash is always going to be better than a local am-dram production from the W.I in the church hall..... the problems occur when the W.I. gets a bad review or someone expects too much from it, then toys get thrown from prams and hissy fits start.  It's best just to accept it for what it is, hardly perfect, but there are worse ways to spend your leisure time. 


A fair point well made.

But if we consider the issue to be one of customer/supplier then this analogy springs to mind: A bloke wants to buy a tailor made suit but considers it unreasonable or can't be arsed to be measured.

As Mark said the number of clubs sending in returns has hardly increased.
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Originally posted by transient

every sector has it's fair share of awkward customers. Wink

At the end of the day a West End smash is always going to be better than a local am-dram production from the W.I in the church hall..... the problems occur when the W.I. gets a bad review or someone expects too much from it, then toys get thrown from prams and hissy fits start.  It's best just to accept it for what it is, hardly perfect, but there are worse ways to spend your leisure time. 
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every sector has it's fair share of awkward customers. Wink
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Originally posted by JimC

but its inevitable that sometimes they/we run out of patience.

It would seem a feeling shared by some of the 'customers' too.
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Originally posted by JimC

There's nothing secret about any of the PY process, but as a practical point the RYA lack the staff numbers to engage in dialogues with everyone who wants to whinge about their PY No. The restriction on people 'representing' seems to be as good a way as any to give clubs support without being buried in other calls, which would mean no support for the clubs.

There are loads of broadcast public comms about how it all works. Nothing is missed out. When they co-opted me on the PY group there were no surprises. To an extent volunteers provide some extra communications, but its inevitable that sometimes they/we run out of patience.
 
Please provide links to the algorithms, and worked examples of how this years numbers were generated.
 
 
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Transient - the amount of data submitted to PYS has increased dramatically in the last two years.  I don't have the digests with me to check the growth, but it was very significant (more than double if I remember correctly).  I don't think the overall number of clubs returning changed that much but was still up a bit - I don't think we expected that to increase a lot, but the more clubs that submit via PYS the better.  It was very noticeable how many of the biggest and/or most active racing clubs had switched to using the PYS.

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Thanks for that, sincerely appreciated.

Me thinks the folk doing all the work for us at the RYA PY office are doing a great job and any further improvements in data quality/volume and final accuracy are down to the rest of us i.e. sailors, class assocs and clubs.

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