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kurio99 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 09 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 65 |
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What's your secret to handling them?
Had an awful sail, last night. North wind from out of the city, all gusty and shifty with lots of dead patches of air. Was running 16 knots with 28 knot gusts. I was in a single handed hiker. Obviously, watch the water surface, but I was hitting pockets that weren't showing clearly. I'm okay with gusts - hike out, turn up, sheet out. As well, you seem to have more time. Boat can almost be sideways and still recover. With a lull, a few inches and your backside is in the water. A more inches more and you're inspecting for zebra mussel infestations on the lake bottom. It happens too quick. I tried the opposite to the gust techniques- turn down, move in, sheet in - but it really wasn't working for me. In the end, cowardly me stuck near the centre of the boat, shedding much of the wind rather than playing it. There's got to be a better way. |
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GybeFunny ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 403 |
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Depends how agile you are? The best people just move in at whatever rate is necessary.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Just move quicker - and don't sheet in tighter - see the thread about leech tension.
I'd say your gust technique was a bit the wrong way round, too. Sheet first, then hike, to keep the boat flatter, as you can sheet faster than you can move. Others may have different advice... |
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dogslife ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 17 Feb 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 58 |
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If the conditions are as described give the sailing a miss and go straight to the bar.......
![]() Seriously; you could try sailing more freely (not pointing as high) to help even out the lulls & backers and giving yourself more steerage, more options & more time - less like walking a tightrope, more like walking a plank. On a time over distance basis you might find this is a quicker way to go upwind in gusty, flukey conditions.
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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buy a faster boat so that as they are more apparent wind driven so the lulls are damped out a bit...
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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is that working for you at BSC with MPS? Or have you moved clubs ![]() |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Are you sure about that? My impression is that they are magnified. Sail fast enough into a big enough hole and your own apparent will backwind the jib and push the boat on top of you. |
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ellistine ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 762 |
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I'm definitely not saying your wrong but wouldn't that then happen to any boat that was sailing faster than the true wind?
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fab100 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1005 |
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it depends on the gusts...sometimes they are big down-drafts, in which case the wind fans out as it hits the water, causing direction changes that are far more problematical than the changes in velocity.
Have a read here for more about downdrafts and velocity headers If not, the wind range you describe should see you at least fully powered at all times - it's then just a matter of fast hands, easing to depower and re-sheeting in the lulls. Also, remember that grabbing anything handy and pulling yourself to leeward as the boat heels to ww, exacerbates the problem by pulling the boat on top of you. Sometimes it is better, in extremis, to let the water, helped by your buoyancy aid, take your weight and yes I know doing this will slow the boat. Less pleasant to do when the water is 1 degree C tho. And if it is really silly, there are times where the expedient thing to do is not to hike to the max because it inhibits your ability to respond to a big lull but to sail more conservatively, aka badly. This is known as a bad-practice day - don't let it lure you into bad habits!
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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The lulls are the least of my issues
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