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stuarthop 
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 Topic: Rudderless launchingPosted: 27 Apr 05 at 11:02am |
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we just ordered our new carbon rudder but its fixed not lifting, has any 1 got any tips for launching without the rudder on?
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Phil eltringham
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Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 12:25pm |
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not in a big swell, communicate between helm and crew using the relative sheeting of main and jib to steer the boat. Also use the hull shape, heel to windward to bear off, leward to hear up, etc... rudderless sailing is a usefull technique to have anyway, means you use it less in the race, which is faster.
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Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 1:18pm |
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i dont think haveing a fixed ruder is much of an advantige
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Twin Poles
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Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 1:25pm |
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Make sure both helm and crew know the basics of rudderless sailing using both sails and balance. A stated above use windward, leeward heel to bear away, luff up, and also sheet the main in to luff up and sheet/back the jib to bear away. Getting out and pacticing on a triangle course is really useful, and will give you the confidence that you don't need the rudder at all, and if the crew can do all the work your laughing cus they can steer while the helm puts the rudder on. If not just sail rudderless untill your in clear water, luff up till the boat has almost stopped and then put the rudder on.
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KnightMare
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Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 3:33pm |
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Yeah depending on how hard the rudder is to fix on, ie if it takes a lot of time fitting it on while moving may not be an option. Since as the crew moves the hull in the water to steer the boat it will create turbulence which will then affect the way that the water flows past the rudder, this could end up moving the rudder as its not connected, therefore making it harder to fit. If there are not too many boats bout I tjhink that heading up into the wind to get the boat stopped is a good idea. I think you aught to have a practice with a rescue boat nearby so that if it doesnt work you dont end up back on the shore and damaging more things. |
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GBR176671
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Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 4:23pm |
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yeah try it on a calm dayand it will give you experiance
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Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 4:32pm |
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Helm gets in the boat. Crew pushes the boat out into chest deep. Helm passes the crew the rudder which the crew then fits, taking great care not to damage it. So as the rudder does not ground when the crew climbs over the back of the boat, it is recommended that the boat is pushed out a bit further, to about neck deep. The crew then works their way round to the windward side of the boat and climbs in near the shroud, being very careful not to get the helm wet.
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JimC
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Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 5:06pm |
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You missed the bit about Helm shouting at crew "for ****s keep the boat head to wind..." |
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Contender443
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Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 5:58pm |
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p.s He also missed the bit about this technique should only be done in water temperatures less than 10 degrees!!! |
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jamesint505
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Posted: 27 Apr 05 at 9:06pm |
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What do you mean you got a mouth full of sewage!!!
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