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    Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 6:22pm

I would be grateful for any advice the forum may be able to offer...

I'm looking to buy a doublehanded boat to suit myself and my son.

Helm..88kg, experienced symmetric sailor (ex RS600/700...).

Crew..age 14 and 55kg reasonably experienced by way of RYA courses etc.

The boat must be asymmetric, am happy to trapeze if necessary and I'm extremely fond of RS boats...I sail on the sea.

Hope that's enough to be able to get a steer from the forum...

 

Thanks in advance....

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Gladys?

Take a look at the RS200 and RS400. Oh, and last time I checked .. neither the 600 nor the 700 were Symetric

Maybe have a look at the Laser 2000 or V3000. 2k can have a wire added for fun (Can't race with it), and 3000 already has one.

Budget?


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Ooops... missed the 'a' from symmetric..!!  such a small letter, such a big difference!

I don't want an RS200 as I've sailed one for years and want something different..and I think the weight isn't really that suitable...

Not keen on the 2K..seems under canvassed to me.

Budget..2k to 4k

 

 

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B14 perhaps?

Cherub?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gladys Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 09 at 8:01pm

Just to let you know villan this isn't me i'm looking at single handers!

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Would an RS800 be totally too much?

Or a 400 too much of a handful at this weight profile ?

I guess I'd like to hear from people who have experienced these boats...

Or, totally left field, a Dart 16X??

Thanks again!!

 

 

 

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But of a biased one but i really do think the buzz would be perfect their weight plus its assymetric, cheap to buy plus you can now get the nice hyde sails for them.




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The helm would be too heavy for a V3000.

Maybe a Laser 4000? Although I am not sure if the weight equalisation goes down to 55kg.. Worth checking though.

RS800s are actually surprisingly easy to sail, so maybe not too much, although it is twin wire. You would be pushed to get a half decent one for that money though, at least you would have been about a year and a half ago when I was looking, not sure what they are now.

A 400 would almost definitely be too much with the crew only being 55kg. A 91 rules cherub might be quite good? although I am no cherub expert..

Edit: Just re read what I wrote, what I mean about RS800s is that they are easier to sail than you might think, not that they are literally easy to sail. In my opinion easier to helm than a 29er.



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It depends a lot on the crew... How strong etc. One of your big limits may be how big a kite can be handled, especially on the hoists and drops which are what really take it out of you. RS400 kites at one extreme are baby, and no bother, at the other end a B14 kite can be quite a lot of work if you're outside the 17-40 age group.

Oh yes, where do you sail - although RS400s have a reputation of needing a lot of weight my experience is that they are fast with lighter sailors inland where you don't need to bash that wide bow through the waves.

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Agree with JimC a b14 kite might be a bit of a handful! Saying that, there is
one B sailor i know at Grafham who sails his B with his daughter, and they
manage fine up until about a top end of a F3, at which point they use a set
of cut down sails (N12 sails iirc...)
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