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simon_b 
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Joined: 04 Sep 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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 Topic: RS Vision/Bahia or an Omega....Posted: 04 Sep 07 at 2:33pm |
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Sailed a Laser & Laser II when I was younger, got into keelboats but now want to get young family into dinghy sailing .... Have a 4 year old (plus another one who is a little young for the experience yet) and a wife who has done some sailing but nothing in dinghies. Need something that wont scare them off and will provide a feeling of security in light winds but equally when it blows, something I can use with friends for a bit of fun.... Sailing will predominantly be in estuary/sheltered bays. Any advice/experiences relating to the Vision/Bahia or Omega gratefully received....
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ratface
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Joined: 07 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 686 |
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Posted: 04 Sep 07 at 3:30pm |
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i have sailed both the Vision and the Bahia.
all i can say is i prefered the Vision, dont know why but i did feel safe in it, though it may have something to do with me falling out of the Bahia from hiking off the toestraps  and both boats do seem to cater for 'family fun' or a blast with mates with the spinnaker up |
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timnoyce
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Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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Posted: 04 Sep 07 at 6:02pm |
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I'd suggest maybe looking at the new Hartley Laminates Wayfarer. With the redesign it really does look the business and there is definitely room for your whole family inside!
(I work for the company that builds them so may be biased but it is a lovely boat!) |
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Splosh
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Joined: 13 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 497 |
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Posted: 04 Sep 07 at 7:09pm |
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I personally wouldnt go for the bahia. we had it as a test boat at alton and no-one could say its name, if they could they put on a accent or something. Also it sounds like something you'll get in a indian takeaway... "I'll have a chicken bahai and chips please" Also the bahia is a new boat and will probably come at a price. If you think the vision is too small you could even go up to the vision XL which would definatly have enough room for a familly (or 2) |
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simon_b
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Posted: 04 Sep 07 at 7:12pm |
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The wayfarer is obviously a well proven boat but i discounted it on the basis of it being heavier than the vision, omega and bahia. If I'm honest the age of the design also put me off a little, perhaps this is unfair?
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NickA
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Posted: 04 Sep 07 at 8:22pm |
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How much is a second hand stratos? They're nice family boats.
On holiday in the med, I always used to insist on taking a Wayfarer on day sails (to the kid's disgust) 'cause it was something I'd sailed before and it looked safe. Then one day took a Stratos instead .... instant conversion. Loads of space, asymetric if you want to go quicker and the kids can even trapeze off it. Not sure why anyone would buy a wayfarer these days ..... .... discuss. The Bahia is a huge whale of a tub of a boat - makes the Omega look compact - but it goes OK. One came out round the Thatcher rock off Torbay the other week, big waves, strong winds etc etc, and seemed quite happy with it. |
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simon_b
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Posted: 05 Sep 07 at 7:30am |
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The bahia is probably the lowest on my list at the moment as I agree it looks a bit of a tub.... Not sure about the Omega, it looks good on paper but seems to get trashed all too frequently on discussion forums. The VISION gets good write ups and comment on forums but I am just a bit concerned about its suitability as a family boat with very young children, that said, it is my current favourite... The stratos has always very much appealed but as our local club doesn’t really have provision to launch using a car I think it could prove heavy to recover for my wife and I (and I don’t really want to rely on other people being around to help). Maybe not though? If recovery was ok, the Stratos may well move to the top of my list ....
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timnoyce
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Posted: 05 Sep 07 at 8:59am |
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The Wayfarer has changed a bit in recent months... no wooden thwart or floor boards, removed ugly spray deflectors, spini chute instead of bags etc. I'm only 21 but I think it looks quite 'cool', I'd sail one of these but you wouldn't catch me in an old one!
I'll try and upload some photos but please do come and have a look for yourself at Southampton. |
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neilboys
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Posted: 07 Sep 07 at 5:40pm |
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I would definately go for a Stratos with Vision second best. I dont like Omega (not sure about the Bahia but it looks horrible !). I have sailed a Stratos for a number of years.......as you have stated a great boat for what it is designed for, you will get a good second hand one for £4500 - £5000 (maybe less) and you get so much more for your money.We have dragged it up and down lots of different slipways and quite honestly have never had a problem. In a blow it can be sailed quite conservatively or you can have a pretty good blast. Friendly class association who are trying to get numbers up for Nationals etc. It will always look after you. I have sailed the Vision and like it, but not that much room (although seems to have that RS pedigree as goes quite nicely downwind). It looks like they may be starting a Class Association. The Omega.....we have them as training boats at our club for the Youth section and we don't let them out in them above a good F3 (revert back to the Wayfarer). I find them very 'tender' and you are easily overpowered.......my son who now sails our ISO with me refuses to go out in them (they are not that bad !).......More room than the Vision though. I would'nt discount the Wayfarer I suppose the other consideration is what is sailed at your local club or where you will be sailing.........for a good sea boat I would suggest stick to the Stratos/Wayfarer.. Good luck
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neilboys
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Posted: 07 Sep 07 at 5:46pm |
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Should have said.......you can get lots of kit and friends in the Stratos/Wayfarer.......Vision/Omega are less accomodating
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