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    Posted: 22 Apr 07 at 6:16pm

hi ive seen previous posts on the RS500 but not sure on it. It looks like a nice boat but i cant find decent information on other websites. They look pretty cheap aswel so thats a bonus. So does anyone know:

  • How easy they're de-powered?
  • PY?
  • What about stability compared to the 29er?
  • Crew weight?

So if you could help me with this it'd be greatly appreciated!

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Just look through the previous posts mate.  These questions have been answered a thousand times before.....

but:
they're depowered fairly easily being a modernly rigged boat but not as easily depowered as a bethwaite rig.
the PY isn't confirmed yet but is somewhere around 950.  A
way, way more stable than the 29er
about 120-135 optimum

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The 500 responds well to LOTS of downhaul and when you slacken the lowers the kicker will have good effect too.  As for weight, Im about 10 stone and i had a (roughly) 9 stone crew and i didnt feel overpowered when we sailed in a good gusty breeze. 
Stability, no problem!
The one thing i think should be mentioned is that although the mast is tapered, it seems very stiff at the top and doesnt flex off when gusts hit.  And so when a gust does hit, you will find yourself having to ease a lot of main to keep the boat in check. 
Hope this helps
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Ps, edited due to me being informed wrongly on the py

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Sorry Doug, but Riki @ RS said the reverse to you:

"With regard to RS500 PY, we originally recommended 972, but as more boats have begun sailing and we have sailed against other classes more, this recommendation has been reduced to 960."

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Hmmmm well in that case i retract my ealier comment, I had obviously been lied to, no doubt by someone not happy with the py. 

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Frankly, I'm surprised. I'd have expected a PY nearer 1000 looking at the spec.

But maybe their being easy to sail means average people are sailing them to their potential, which means they are getting good results in club racing (unlike a lot of 29ers - ref our PM chat, Doug)

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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Frankly, I'm surprised. I'd have expected a PY nearer 1000 looking at the spec.



Really?  How come?  What part of the spec list would you have though would take it back to that?  The sails seem of reasonable size and the boat doesn't appear heavy (it comes up the beach without trouble). 
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Having raced against a few I can tell you they can be quite slippery through the water in lightish conditions!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 07 at 11:20pm
Originally posted by Doug.H

Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Frankly, I'm surprised. I'd have expected a PY nearer 1000 looking at the spec.



Really?  How come?  What part of the spec list would you have though would take it back to that?  The sails seem of reasonable size and the boat doesn't appear heavy (it comes up the beach without trouble). 

Weight is comparable to a Laser 3000, length slightly less. OK the sails are somewhat bigger, but that only brings a benefit till you're overpowered. Spec not so different to a Buzz.

I agree, having watched them, that they look slippery, but one has yet to beat my V3k on the water... Maybe in the light stuff, though, as PB suggests.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote mike ellis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Apr 07 at 5:10pm
500 is too stable for me, compared to a 29er its like a barge. im not a great fan of the boat id go for a 9er despite the price.
600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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