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daveb 
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Hi I am new to the forum and this year want to start sailing dinghys. I have experience in sailing larger yachts and now want to move onto something more fun. I weigh 10 Stone and would like peoples thoughts on what asymettric dinghy would be most suitable for a beginner. Many Thanks |
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Villan
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Single handed or double handed?
Trapeze? Hiking? Sportsboat? |
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daveb
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It would mainly be sailed singled handed and I think with a trapeze. Many Thanks |
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BBSCFaithfull
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Posted: 30 Dec 06 at 4:39pm |
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The 600 is a cheap boat but quite hard to sail right. The musto is the other alternative i personally prefer them to the 700.
You will have to try them for yourself though! Alex |
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Isis
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Without wanting to be rude in any way you class yourself as a beginer
(at least to small boats) and a singlehanded assy boat with a
trap may be a bit of a jump for anyone new to dinghies (wonder if
graeme has an opinion on this?), with or without your big boat
experiance...
If you are prepared to comprimise a bit and drop one of your parameters your options are.... Singlehanded Assy RS Vareo - probibly a pretty good bet. You say 'mainly singlehanded' and theres room for an extra person here if you wanted. mxRay - very quirky and probibly not too suitable here but a lot of fun. Singlehanded Trapeze RS600 - Great fun but pretty unstable and again probibly too much swimming involved to start with. Contender - Would still be a challenge but an acheivable one. I know someone who was in a similar place and managed fine. If you consider doublehanded (some of which can be singlehanded pretty hapily) boats then your options are vast... Theres also the sensible option of getting something like a laser for a season or two to get used to small boats then trading up for something with a little more grunt but thats down to how confident you are in your abilities.. Edited by Isis |
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daveb
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Ok that gives me some boats to think about. I am definately open to all options and just want to sale a dinghy for fun so I am not to fusy on what I get. Many Thanks |
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mike ellis
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they were cheap, recently second hand prices have gone up. also this boat doesnt have a kite. a freind of mine sailed a laser 2 single handed a lot and tried a 600 earlier this year and found it very difficult. i wouldnt recomend it for someone starting in small boats.
i would also recomend this route. Edited by mike ellis |
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Isis
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Funily enough ive just got off the phone from a guy from my club
asking wether my 600 was unused for a reason (its pretty hard to sail
her whilst in scotland) |
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29er397
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I'd say the contender is a good option. As isis says, it will be a challenge but an attainable one. They can also be very cheap to pick up with the possibility of selling and buying a better one as your skills develop. Not only that they have a very competitive circuit as far as i know. They are great boats and are really fun to sail, even without a kite, although they are not so fun in light airs.
yup, i think i got my 600 just at the right time. looks bitchin with the wide wings, although the UV faded red (pink) does make it slightly less beefy looking, they will be black soon! Could be an option to move onto if you get slightly bored with the stability of the contender. either that or MPS or 700. Then again you might fall in love with the contender as many people do and stay with it forever. There are plenty of options for you to think about. The best piece of advice for buying a boat is to try all your optoins first, only then will you really know what you want, and what suits you. Also think about where you will be sailing it and who you will be sailing against as this can make any racing you do much more addictive. Good luck Ferg Edited by 29er397 |
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redback
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You know there is alot to be said for not going straight into a high performance boat. Many races are won by picking the right shift, grabing an overlap at the mark and by getting a cracking start. All skills best learnt in a quick tacking/close quarters type of boat. This rules out a trapeze. Speaking as somebody who now sails a high performance machine I find it very easy to spot those who haven't had the experience I mention above. They are the ones sailing at high speed in the wrong direction. If daveb is the beginer he claims he should not buy an asymmetric trapeze boat. Here's simple test (and big boat sailing will have helped here) - you should know the answer instinctively. Assume you have just sailed up the beat of a windward/leeward course and you found the right hand side paid, what gybe should you be trying to get onto after the windward mark? If you don't know the answer then stick to easy boats to handle so that you can easily play with this very important variable. Michael Schumaker didn't start his racing career in F1! |
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