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Fundoctor 
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 Topic: Dinghy for tall man with sore back?!?Posted: 01 Oct 06 at 10:29am |
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Wanting to buy first dinghy. I am 6'2'' and ~90Kg. My club has steep slipway into often windy and wavy Bristol Channel. Find sailing not so much a problem but getting boats in and out of water (even with help) flares ongoing back pain. See a possible solution is to get a light boat and work on design of trailer - for instance saw a Laser transported yday on almost weightless trailer made of plastic piping (are these available commercially?). Anyone got any suggestions for a possible dinghy? So far the Steaker and Europe look like possibilities. British Moth I'm told not so good with waves. Cherub I am told not a good beginner boat and double-handed. Might be too heavy for Europe. Steaker - difficult to right after capsize? Also, for first season, thinking of spending £400-£800 only to see if it is going to work out. A boat that a child could sit in too would be a bonus. Interested to know if there are opinions out there on whether trapezing might actually be better option for sailors with backpain. Would like to race - just initally as an excuse to be out there. Go to it folks!
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Rob.e
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Posted: 01 Oct 06 at 11:38am |
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You're too big for all the boats you mention, I would think you'd need at least a Solo (with a Cumulus mast), which should be easily available in your price range. Get one with, or fit, righting lines, and try a trolley with a jockey wheel. Plenty of room for a child in there. The height of the handles on trolleys varies a lot, and I found getting one with handles at the right height for me made a big difference. Also, the Europe in partic has a very low boom, no good for bad backs! I think modern boats can be better in this respect, and tend to be lighter- have a look at the Supernova, (though you may need to spend a bit more). I would also suggest a boat with a proper cockpit would be more comfy- my back can't cope with Lasers for example; again the Solo is good in this respect. Hope this helps. |
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Fundoctor
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Posted: 01 Oct 06 at 3:13pm |
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Thanks Rob - Solo looks interesting. Good point re jockey wheel and handle height. Is Solo sailed on the sea?
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Rob.e
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Posted: 02 Oct 06 at 12:36pm |
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Yup, it's a good little sea boat. The big advantage with the Solo is it's such a strong class, there's a really good 2nd hand market, so if you do your research and pay the right price, you should be able to sell easily if it doesn't work out for you. I think there are a few sailed near you, so you might even get one locally! Re your question about trapezes, there aren't any trapezing singlehanders that would be any good as a first boat: probably the easiest is the contender, a lovely boat, but famed for its low boom.... |
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Matt Jackson
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Posted: 03 Oct 06 at 1:09pm |
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The Contender is an option but perhaps not the best one:- Fairly heavy. Any spare bodies on board tend to get clouted with the tiller extension eventually (nowhere in the cockpit is safe!) and of course the low boom. You can get a sail altered as there is no minimum leach length though. Best talk to some of the Contenderers at Portishead if you're still keen. |
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Fundoctor
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Posted: 03 Oct 06 at 2:09pm |
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Though new to sport the sight of those Contender folk blasting away into the distance and leaping off waves is seductive. Current plan is to do a season in ordinary dinghy and then move to some with a trapeze. Always wanted to be in the circus. Seem to be coming down to choice of Laser (several here and told racing others in same class is best fun) Solo or maybe still Streaker because it is so darn light.
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vscott
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Posted: 03 Oct 06 at 4:32pm |
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My husband will only trapeze because of his back so either crews me in an Osprey or helms a Contender when I am not available. However, he really enjoyed borrowing a Supa Nova for an afternoon, compared to our sons' laser. Much more comfortable and forgiving. Trolleys can often be adapted to add a jockey wheel - they don't necessarily always come with one in a class. Also balancing the boat correctly on a trolley will help the weight issue. |
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Matt Jackson
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Posted: 04 Oct 06 at 12:56pm |
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You're just too big for a Streaker. Edited by Matt Jackson |
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damp_freddie
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Posted: 18 Oct 06 at 8:08pm |
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How about a phantom
a laser for big lads. Older examples in VGC under a grand.
Reckon you would be too big for a solo, even a bit cramped but there will probably be lots of solo owners disputing this
Hiking is no doubt a lot better training for your torso stability than trapezing! ALl this McKenzie inverting your spine stuff seems to have gone out in favour of palates torso and balance builders- done my back wonders. Get a joint qulaified physio-chiro, a rare breed, or two one from each type, who cooperate on sports injuries.
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Fundoctor
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Posted: 18 Oct 06 at 9:59pm |
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Aruba? I've lived and sailed in Sint Maarten. Back is quite badly buggered. Had two hours in laser on Saturday and lot of pain this week. Maybe need to trapeze. Wondering if Vortex would be an option? Will look into Phantom - thanks
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