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 Topic: laser vortexPosted: 24 Jul 06 at 7:17pm |
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what do people think about this boat and how much do you need to weigh to sail 1?
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feva_sailor
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Posted: 25 Jul 06 at 9:44am |
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I think there are people in the region of 60kg and upwards sailing it, but they can only handle the boats in the "lighter" stuff.
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Posted: 25 Jul 06 at 11:22am |
thats abit biased  how do they compare to a rs600? |
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Posted: 25 Jul 06 at 11:33am |
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I had a quick spin in one a few weeks ago, about F3-4 and I felt a bit overpowered at 12 stone, although I'm sure there's ways and means of depowering. It was really quick upwind and downwind with the kite up, but weighs twice as much as a 600 so it wasn't as responsive as I'd like, although on the flip-side it was stale enough to tack with the main cleated. I wasn't too comfortable with the lack of cockpit, on the 600 you step down slightly from the wings to the hull, but on the Vortex it's completely flat. The retro-fitted kite is a bit of a bodge-job, but that may have just been that particular boat. I regularly sail my 600 against Vortexes, with a kite the PY is slightly slower than the 600, in light winds I sometimes lap them, in strong winds I struggle to keep up. If you are going to sail in medium to strong winds regularly, then it might be a good option although it's not quite my cup of tea.
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Posted: 25 Jul 06 at 12:02pm |
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The Vortex does better with a lightweight helm, even in the strong stuff - just ask Keith Escritt, not the largest of blokes, but about the hardest person to beat in the Vortex. It is rearly easy to depower the sail, and the vortex rearly shines in the heavy stuff - f5+ The only real bugbear with the Vortex is it's tendency to stall in the tacks, and a quick look at the forums here shows that the RS600 has exactly the same problem, as did the Blaze before its rig change. I've never sailed a RS600 properly, so I can't give any direct comparisons, but basically the Vorex is slightly slower, but a lot more stable and forgiving. Plus you can retrofit an asymetric to any Vortex relitivly cheaply, wheras getting a kite for a 600 means trading up to a 700. Mark
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Posted: 25 Jul 06 at 2:33pm |
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thanx for ur help guys this boat seems right for me if i can meet the weight requirement? what would you say the minimum weight to sail 1 is?
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Posted: 26 Jul 06 at 3:00pm |
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I'm about 70kg and have had no problems sailing the vortex. Very well designed rig which auto depowers in gusts etc. I can sail a 5-6 mile race in a good F5 and come back ready for the next start! The asymmetric is no problem either as it's much more a question of technique than brute force..goes like stink if you get it right downwind. Also quite cheap to buy at the moment either with or without the spinnaker. |
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Posted: 31 Jul 06 at 6:58pm |
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Im 63kg and ive only sailed the vortex in a force 4 and i had no problems controlling it and i hadnt depowered the sail particularly so i reckon you can be as light as you want in a vortex. When the big winds come blowing i often wish i had one! Edited by Doug.H |
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Posted: 31 Jul 06 at 7:33pm |
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When the Vortex's came to Kielder for the SSR grand prix event they performed very well in all conditions. On the fist day it built to a 6 and they di very well, on the 2nd it was less than a 2 and they were still doin very well. Both vortexes were 2nd and 3rd overall with only sten beating them in is Musto. I am personally going for a 600 because keeping the boat upright is more of a challenge and is half the fun!
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