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Topic: YachtsandYachting.com Forumites Open Meeting
Posted By: rodney
Subject: YachtsandYachting.com Forumites Open Meeting
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 12:05pm
I am thinking of organising a Y&Y Forumites Open meeting. This has been sparked by previous discussions on this forum and also the high levels of interest and input to the Olympic sailing.
My thoughts are as below:
  • Open handicap meeting for Y&Y forum members.
  • 2 days - weekend - October or November (if successful we can make it an annual event in warmer weather).
  • Maximum of 2 boats per class.
  • Maximum of 40 Entries (minimum 25 entries).
  • Yardstick range 900-1150.
  • Short B/B racing - say 4-5 races per day.
  • W/L courses.
  • Convenient location.
  • Saturday night bash, of course.

Questions:

  • Would you enter such an event? We need to have an idea of numbers to ensure the success of the event.
  • Where? Has to be a club who will accept such a rabble and has a good bar and beer cellar Wink
  • All thought and ideas welcome.
  • Will GRF join us to demonstrate his talents and amazing tactical skills? To get him there we would have to promise to prop up the bar with him Smile

All thoughts and input welcome!



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Posted By: MattK
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 12:12pm
Why exclude fast boats?


Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 12:19pm
it sounds a great idea!Smile

but why exclude slower boats like mine!!!!!!DisapproveCry


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 12:46pm
I don't want to exclude anyone but as I was thinking of short b/b races I was concerned about delays.  We may be able to overcome this with lap times.  Any thoughts on a format that allows for a quick turnaround between races and greater range of PYs would be welcomed.  I need some help here as 99% of my sailing is class racing.

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Posted By: fab100
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 1:03pm
You use motor Grand Prix finishing - if someone is lapped, finish them anyway and use average lap times to adjust times.

In some ways, this is actually fairer than having the slower boats keep going, in that everyone sails in the same wind conditions - we've probably all seen the Wednesday evening scenario where the wind dies leaving the slower booat stranded with no chance of saving their time


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 1:20pm
Thanks Clive!  If we adopt this we could certainly extend the range of PYs.  Should we have a limits at all?  Maybe F/Moths - Optimists?  Thoughts please.

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Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by rodney

I don't want to exclude anyone but as I was thinking of short b/b races I was concerned about delays.  We may be able to overcome this with lap times.  Any thoughts on a format that allows for a quick turnaround between races and greater range of PYs would be welcomed.  I need some help here as 99% of my sailing is class racing.


as above, average lap times for lapped boats would work.

BUT its worth thinking about pursuits. you could easily do two 90 min races
pursuits have a lots of advantages over normal py races. the most important of them are;

1) everybody finishs at the same time and knows the results straight away!

2) they are so, so,so much more fun!!!!!!!!!Big smile especially for the slower boats.


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Posted By: blaze720
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 2:17pm
W/L courses

Only W/L ?   The majority probably do not use an asymetric - what about triangle/Sausage - and offer something for everyone?

Mike L.


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 6:14pm
We'd suggested this before and I said then I'd happily jolly along work permitting, in fact I'd had it in my mind to suggest a sort of Formula 1 style event or association along the lines of that Tasar thing, but for single handers.

October rather than November for me, I made it a rule a while back not to go racing in sub 10 degrees windchill, the hands aint what they were. In fact why wait, tis the internet we're all here, we can pick a date in late september even and sort it out online if we can show or not.. By November the Olympics will be long forgotten.




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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 6:30pm
Graeme,  It would be great if you can came (of course that's if we get enough support to run the event).  If we can do September we will but I am  working though a busy calendar and many clubs are fully booked.  Any thoughts on where?  I did wonder if Burghfield may put up with us and also if they are able to keep the bar open for the Saturday evening?  I also need some time to work on prizes and a beer fund Smile

Mike, I always thought that the reaches on a triangle, depending on the angles. may benefit the assys as they can often carry the kite to the corner and back with no worries about tactics.  Probably best to have w/l and old Olympics course options with the race team to make the decision for each race.


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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 6:37pm
I'll sponsor it under the Electra banner, put a couple of bikes up, Girl and Boy. I'm sure we can scare up some other product prizes, depends I guess how many show up, we could be surprised..




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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 7:02pm
Thanks Graeme Smile

We will throw some nice, warm Sandiline clothing into the prizes and also fund some of the beer.

Already looking like an event to compete in!  Perhaps we should have a Masters prize also to give you and me a chance? LOL  (Zimmer Frame?)

How about a prize for James just for coming?


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 7:04pm
Oh Hell!  All competitors will get a prize!

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Posted By: fab100
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 7:04pm
and I will provide a copy or three of my book - but they need to go as spot prizes rather than for the winners

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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 7:08pm
Originally posted by fab100

and I will provide a copy or three of my book - but they need to go as spot prizes rather than for the winners

Thanks Clive!  Fantastic Smile

Any Forumite out there a brewer?


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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 8:53am
I will come.  Grumpy old woman prize please, as well as manky old boat prize.  Mind you, it will be tough choosing which manky old boat to bring...

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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 8:55am
As long as I can make it, i'm in! I need to do some sailing this year...


Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 9:38am
Thanks winging it and Mark!

I would like to get an idea on numbers of people interested so would be grateful if potential entries can indicate interest by adding to the list below.  As soon as we have an idea of numbers we will work on venue and get an NOR and Entry form together.

Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F.? ????
fab100? ????
ex laser? ????
MattK? ????
blaze720? ????



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Posted By: blaze720
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 9:40am
I guess Burghfield might be a good location being fairly central ... best thing is to make contact with the Commodore - Steve Barraclough via the on-site secretary there (see the website) .... would be good for a bit of publicity I'm sure.  

I'll make an initial enquiry but probabaly best if you then take over Rodney (or Y&Y if their name is being used on this one !) .... it could be a sort of recontrituted Daycote silver salver ... not necessarily for the best in their classes but for those who have laid down their on-line reputations (such as they are ... or were) in the cause of winding up each other and entertaining the rest of you ... er sorry I mean discussing important issues of the day.  

Mike L. 


Posted By: Peaky
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:14am
Why limit it to two boats per class? I'd be happy to enter but hardly think I'm one of the top two Blazers on the forum!

Chew would be a decent venue (says he, not on the committee).

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:17am
I'd be interested in bringing a Minisail along if the handicapping went that low...

Is there a 2nd Minisail owner on the forum?!


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:22am
What I want to avoid is a class takeover!  It won't be much fun, for example, we we get 30 entries with, say, 20 Phantoms, Solos or whatever.  I also think we want as many classes as possible represented whilst still keeping the numbers to a sensible level.

My view is that we should allow entries on a first come basis so get your name on the list as all will be good.  If we don't get a good spread of classes maybe we should go to max of 3 boats per class but, I think, not yet.


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:24am
Originally posted by Rupert

I'd be interested in bringing a Minisail along if the handicapping went that low...

Is there a 2nd Minisail owner on the forum?!

No Problem Rupert!  I think the lap times formula will work so get your name down Wink


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Posted By: Pastyman
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:27am
Hi Rodney
Would love to bring the Osprey along and can also add some GUL prizes to the pot

Wink


Posted By: robinft
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:28am
Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F.? ????
fab100? ????
ex laser? ????
MattK? ????
blaze720?         ????
Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72
robinft                      D-One          GBR 106


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Posted By: paolochilds
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:36am
I would like to come in the 100!! Reckon QMSC or Datchet would be a good shout to host the event! would be able to bring something from LDC to add to the prize mix!

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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:54am
Mark Jardine: Laser - GBR 164919 (just as long as the rats haven't eaten the sail).

I'm bring Y&Y beanies from a couple of years ago for everyone!


Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:54am
Originally posted by paolochilds

I would like to come in the 100!! Reckon QMSC or Datchet would be a good shout to host the event! would be able to bring something from LDC to add to the prize mix!

Perfect Paolo!  At this rate we will have plenty of prizes for everyoneSmile


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:57am
Originally posted by Pastyman

Hi Rodney
Would love to bring the Osprey along and can also add some GUL prizes to the pot

Wink

Great stuff!  It's looking like anyone not coming is going to miss out on something special here.  Everyone will get a prize which is great!


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 10:58am
Originally posted by Mark Jardine

Mark Jardine: Laser - GBR 164919 (just as long as the rats haven't eaten the sail).

I'm bring Y&Y beanies from a couple of years ago for everyone!

Thanks Mark!  Bring the rats as well Smile


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Posted By: mangoman
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 11:39am
[QUOTE=Timmus]
Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F.? ????
fab100? ????
ex laser? ????
MattK? ????
blaze720?         ????
Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72
mangoman                Vortex         1013

Any other vortexes on this forum coming ?? Keith , are you there ???


Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 11:56am
Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F.? ????
fab100? ????
ex laser? ????
MattK? ????
blaze720?         ????
Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72
mangoman                Vortex         1013
paolochilds RS 100 ???
Pastyman Osprey ???
Rupert? Minisail ???



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Posted By: robinft
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 11:59am
Originally posted by robinft

Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F.? ????
fab100? ????
ex laser? ????
MattK? ????
blaze720?         ????
Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72
robinft                      D-One          GBR 106


You forgot me!!!


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Posted By: Peaky
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 12:00pm
Count me in Rodney.

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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 12:06pm
Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F.? ????
fab100? ????
ex laser? ????
MattK? ????
blaze720?         ????
Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72
mangoman                Vortex         1013
paolochilds RS 100 ???
Pastyman Osprey ???
Rupert? Minisail ???
robinft                      D-One          GBR 106
Peaky Blaze 604


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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 12:11pm
Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F. Laser EPS 124
fab100? ????
ex laser? ????
MattK? ????
blaze720?         ????
Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72
mangoman                Vortex         1013
paolochilds RS 100 ???
Pastyman Osprey ???
Rupert? Minisail ???
robinft                      D-One          GBR 106
Peaky Blaze 604


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Posted By: SUGmeister
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 12:15pm
PY or Sailjuice handicaps?

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Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 12:18pm
Interesting ideas on what constitutes a central location...

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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 12:21pm
Originally posted by SUGmeister

PY or Sailjuice handicaps?

My view is PY but happy to go with the majority view!


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 12:26pm

Originally posted by Lukepiewalker

Interesting ideas on what constitutes a central location...

I think, at this late stage, we will be down to who will have us!  Not, necessarily, because we are a bunch of hooligans but getting a suitable date on the calendar.  How about off the Nothe?  That way all of the forum lurkers can get a grandstand view Wink


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Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 12:30pm
Just pointing it out... I won't make it so doesn't bother me, but maybe somewhere up about Northampton would be fairer.

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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 12:44pm
Originally posted by Lukepiewalker

Just pointing it out... I won't make it so doesn't bother me, but maybe somewhere up about Northampton would be fairer.


Keyhaven is pretty central... right between hurst castle and milford-on-sea Wink


Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 12:45pm
I would love too come but need a date it would be on due to work
So put me as a maybe depending on the date Thumbs Up


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 1:07pm
Originally posted by Rockhopper

I would love too come but need a date it would be on due to work
So put me as a maybe depending on the date Thumbs Up

For the moment put your name down so as not to be dissapointed.  Date and venue will be sorted as soon as the level of interest hits a sensible number.


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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 1:25pm
sorry chaps- no road trailer, and a bit of trek to get to Valencia to pack the boat up and bring it back!

... unless there's some charter boats on offer or alternatively I can sail around the edge of the 'race track ' on my board and lob banana skins at you as you go past me?  If I manage to hit you, then you get an extra 'joker'?


Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 1:26pm
... second thoughts, Graeme... can I borrow the V-Twin?


Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by pondmonkey

... second thoughts, Graeme... can I borrow the V-Twin?

I am sure that someone can find a boat for you and if no other Finns enter I might be able to conjure one up for you!


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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 1:39pm
can I pump?  Oooh, I want I go at that pumping thing.... on a serious note, it will be totally date dependent and I've got a christening on 7th, wedding on the 19-21 and a family birthday 27/28..... so October's a a bit stuffed for any sailing tbh!!!!


Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 1:42pm
I would like to enter, unfortuantely the two D-one spots are taken Rodney...Now if you had a spare Finn Wink or even Icon.  I'm in. 
P.S. did you get my e-mail last week?

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Posted By: Thunder Road
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 1:55pm
Count me in Icon or Finn?
Mike


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Posted By: redders
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 3:21pm
Count us in Merlin or RS400
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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by Ruscoe

I would like to enter, unfortuantely the two D-one spots are taken Rodney...Now if you had a spare Finn Wink or even Icon.  I'm in. 
P.S. did you get my e-mail last week?

I will see what we can do re a boat.  Subject to demand and numbers there is a chance that we will open it up to 3 boats per class.

Got your email and will reply soon as I have some news.

Rodney


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 5:20pm
Current list

Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F. Laser EPS 124
fab100? ????
ex laser? ????
MattK? ????
blaze720?         ????
Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72
mangoman                Vortex         1013
paolochilds RS 100 ???
Pastyman Osprey ???
Rupert? Minisail ???
robinft                      D-One          GBR 106
Peaky Blaze 604
redders Merlin OR RS400
Thunder Road Icon OR Finn
Rockhopper RS300 383


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Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 5:52pm
For the coarse if you are thinking of doing three races why not use the format that our club does for a handicap open meeting which is
Race 1 upwind,downwind
Race 2,triangle
Race 3,square
This way it is fair for everyone as it covers all points of sailing ?


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Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by rodney

Current list

Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F. Laser EPS 124
fab100? ????
ex laser                   british moth  849  or lightning 333
mrs exlaser             british moth  850  
MattK? ????
blaze720?         ????
Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72
mangoman                Vortex         1013
paolochilds RS 100 ???
Pastyman Osprey ???
Rupert? Minisail ???
robinft                      D-One          GBR 106
Peaky Blaze 604
redders Merlin OR RS400
Thunder Road Icon OR Finn
Rockhopper RS300 383


count us in, if the date and venue fit.

but i would happily stand down, if a better sailor from either of the classes would like to represent them, as i am a crap sailor!LOL


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 6:44pm
Originally posted by ex laser

Originally posted by rodney

Current list

Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F. Laser EPS 124
fab100? ????
ex laser                   british moth  849  or lightning 333
mrs exlaser             british moth  850  
MattK? ????
blaze720?         ????
Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72
mangoman                Vortex         1013
paolochilds RS 100 ???
Pastyman Osprey ???
Rupert? Minisail ???
robinft                      D-One          GBR 106
Peaky Blaze 604
redders Merlin OR RS400
Thunder Road Icon OR Finn
Rockhopper RS300 383


count us in, if the date and venue fit.

but i would happily stand down, if a better sailor from either of the classes would like to represent them, as i am a crap sailor!LOL

No worries we are crap sailors Wink

The plan is to all meet and have some fun.  No standing down allowed LOL


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Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 8:37am
assuming i get my boat and/or haven't sold my old one count me in - merlin


Posted By: Thunder Road
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 8:38am
We can always talk a good race, after all it is what we do 95% of the time, I wish it were otherwise!

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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 9:02am

Originally posted by rodney

Current list

 

Name/Username       Class   Sail number

 

Rodney                                    Finn                  GBR 53

winging it                                 ????

Mark Jardine                 ????

G.R.F.                           Laser EPS 124

fab100?                                    ????

ex laser                   british moth  849  or lightning 333
mrs exlaser             british moth  850   

MattK?                          ????

blaze720?                            ????

Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72

mangoman                Vortex         1013
paolochilds                   RS 100             ???

Pastyman                                 Osprey             ???

Rupert?                         Minisail             ???

robinft                      D-One          GBR 106

Peaky                           Blaze                604

redders                                    Merlin OR RS400

Thunder Road              Icon OR Finn

Rockhopper                 RS300              383

Paramedic                    Merlin

Only up to 20 so far so please add your name/class if you would like to compete in this event.  Itís looking like we will have prizes to spare with support coming from all corners. That is apart from the Brewery sponsor I will be seeking!  Donít miss out, I know itís going to be a fun weekend for all.



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Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 10:16am
Rodney i will be there dependant on location and date, i will find a boat.  Maybe even dust off the Graduate if the forecast looks well for my daughter.

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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 10:56am
Cor blimey!  Just talked to Thunder Road and he was just going into the gym Shocked

This event is meant to be for fun so I am thinking of applying a 10% penalty for anyone who's physically fit Wink


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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 10:56am
Originally posted by Ruscoe

Rodney i will be there dependant on location and date, i will find a boat.  Maybe even dust off the Graduate if the forecast looks well for my daughter.

Hey, I'm not coming up there to find you hiding in your daughters skirts after all this time, I expect you and Jimbo in proper celebrity death match mode , fully single handered up, there will be pints on each race...Wink


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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 10:58am
Originally posted by rodney

Cor blimey!  Just talked to Thunder Road and he was just going into the gym Shocked

This event is meant to be for fun so I am thinking of applying a 10% penalty for anyone who's physically fit Wink

And 20% if they're under 60Wink


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Posted By: Bootscooter
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 11:00am
I'm in!Big smile
 
Don't know what boat, but probably laser, L2K or RS400 I guess.


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Posted By: blaze720
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 11:30am
Originally posted by rodney
Cor blimey!  Just talked to Thunder Road and he was just going into the gym  Shocked
This event is meant to be for fun so I am thinking of applying a 10% penalty for anyone who's physically fit  Wink

GRF added: And 20% if they're under 60 Wink

I see Greame is going for a 30% 'help' is that before we even get near the water !   Blimey the V2 might win yet if he brings it  .... er or maybe not.

I just read something about Elvstrom saying there is little point in winning if you lose your friends ... that's probably not going to be too much of an issue for some of us at this event as you'd have to have a few friends going in the first place.  LOL   ... and I can already hear the PN b*****s discussion in the bar afterwards for a start !

Entertaining though ....

Mike L.


Posted By: Ruscoe
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 11:42am
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by Ruscoe

Rodney i will be there dependant on location and date, i will find a boat.  Maybe even dust off the Graduate if the forecast looks well for my daughter.

Hey, I'm not coming up there to find you hiding in your daughters skirts after all this time, I expect you and Jimbo in proper celebrity death match mode , fully single handered up, there will be pints on each race...Wink
Deal, Nothing like slapping a pensioner around a lake for a couple of hours. 
Betcha Jimbo wont turn up.....Wink

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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 11:51am
highly unlikely if it's run in October.... besides we all know Russ would win, he beat me squarely at our last duel in RS300s a few years ago, shame he was a complete bender and went home rather than stepped up for some (Pink) Sambuca.  As for my only other forum 'battle of the bullsh*ters'... the other guy was pathetic, some lame excuse about a knot in his kite halyard and he also fell asleep rather than come out for a few beers....  


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 11:51am
Originally posted by blaze720

Originally posted by rodney
Cor blimey!  Just talked to Thunder Road and he was just going into the gym  Shocked
This event is meant to be for fun so I am thinking of applying a 10% penalty for anyone who's physically fit  Wink

GRF added: And 20% if they're under 60 Wink

I see Greame is going for a 30% 'help' is that before we even get near the water !   Blimey the V2 might win yet if he brings it  .... er or maybe not.

I just read something about Elvstrom saying there is little point in winning if you lose your friends ... that's probably not going to be too much of an issue for some of us at this event as you'd have to have a few friends going in the first place.  LOL   ... and I can already hear the PN b*****s discussion in the bar afterwards for a start !

Entertaining though ....

Mike L.

Er it's a joke Mike, something I know you struggle with, sense of humour, I hear you often lose it at regattas, best not show up mate, if that is going to be the case, this is for a laugh, nothing serious. Some of us (probably most on here)honestly don't care if we win or lose, it won't dent or damage our sense of humour, nor dull our online opinion, it's a great opportunity to put a name to a face of those we seem to be spending more and more time in the company of. There are also those of us on here who don't view each other as potential customers, just potential friends, that is the spirit with which I'm headed up there, just so I know even more who to not to take too seriously and get wound up by..

Maybe you should show up.Wink Come as a bandit in a Blaze.. they can race with the MerlinsLOL


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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 12:07pm
Originally posted by pondmonkey

highly unlikely if it's run in October.... besides we all know Russ would win, he beat me squarely at our last duel in RS300s a few years ago, shame he was a complete bender and went home rather than stepped up for some (Pink) Sambuca.  As for my only other forum 'battle of the bullsh*ters'... the other guy was pathetic, some lame excuse about a knot in his kite halyard and he also fell asleep rather than come out for a few beers....  

It could happen end of september couldn't it? Tis the internet, if we wanted to we could all just show up at any of our locales to suit, we are an online community are we not, a community in need of serious correction in attitudes.LOL

Youf-full arrogance in severe need of an on water thrashing, then watch it blubbering for its mummy as it's laying under some bar room table in a pool of its own vomit..LOL


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Posted By: blaze720
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 12:11pm
Greame ...  oh boy you need to lighten up ...   !  You've been hooked  ... You rose to that one just a bit too quickly  !! LOL 

Mike L.

PS - Of course I'll be there if available ... and if you are game why not come along with me in an Icon ?




Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 12:11pm
If there's not a date clash, I'd be available as a crew. whilst I currently weigh down the front of a b14 (not mine, helm isn't interested in this) I have in the dim and sistant done trapezing and even used symmetrics. I'm not lightweight, but most definitely up for a laugh.

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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 12:12pm
Did I? Or did you?LOLWink

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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 12:13pm
Originally posted by alstorer

If there's not a date clash, I'd be available as a crew. whilst I currently weigh down the front of a b14 (not mine, helm isn't interested in this) I have in the dim and sistant done trapezing and even used symmetrics. I'm not lightweight, but most definitely up for a laugh.

You could be a mark of the course if you like.. Wear something fluoro and don't move about too muchLOL


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Posted By: Peaky
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by blaze720


PS - Of course I'll be there if available ... and if you are game why not come along with me in an Icon ?


Now that I would like to see. Could you get to the end of the race without a mutiny!

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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 12:25pm
Well there could be more than one race, and we could all swap about, that would be fun.. And we might even learn stuff from the experience.

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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 12:27pm
It'll be like watching the kids in Cadets when the helm uses his/her elbow on their mainsheet arm to lock the little one down in the front to keep them hiking properly. LOL 


Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 12:40pm
13/14 October is what I am thinking!

Should not be too bad for Graeme's arthritis as it will, hopefully, not be too cold.  My diary is chocka with events before and after that date.  There is also a better chance of finding a host club for the event then.

Views please!  If the majority would like a different date I am still happy to get things organised but am unlikely to be there for this year's event Cry


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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 12:54pm
oddly enough-- it might just work out, for one day at least!


Posted By: Peaky
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 1:01pm
Rodney, Sunday 14th October is Visitor's Day/Top Club at Chew, so they may be able to host without any extra effort. The downside is that on the Saturday there is a 200 open, so that might scupper things unless they are willing to share a course.

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Posted By: Thunder Road
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 2:47pm
Just back from the gym, trainer assures me I'll be match fit for mid October, looks like the Icon as the weight is falling off, strange because isn't muscle supposed to weigh more than fat? Would it be ok if my trainer comes along to check out any gaps in my fitness (unlikely) ready for round two. What about my crew I hear you asking, don't worry, in her prime.

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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 2:51pm
Don't forget your nutritionist TR, can I recommend Pondmonkey? He can do wonders with an old tin can and pastry filled with WW2 ration meat.

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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 2:53pm
Originally posted by Thunder Road

Just back from the gym, trainer assures me I'll be match fit for mid October, looks like the Icon as the weight is falling off, strange because isn't muscle supposed to weigh more than fat? Would it be ok if my trainer comes along to check out any gaps in my fitness (unlikely) ready for round two. What about my crew I hear you asking, don't worry, in her prime.

You already have a 10% penalty (G.R.F. says, as you are a youngster, it should be 20%, or is it 30%?) but bringing your trainer will attract a further penalty of 10%.


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Posted By: Thunder Road
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 3:03pm
The nutritionist recommends brandy and babycham in the drinks bottles for between race refreshment, drink of the gods!

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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Don't forget your nutritionist TR, can I recommend Pondmonkey? He can do wonders with an old tin can and pastry filled with WW2 ration meat.

 I only work for lost causes and hapless fools..... I'm thinking of buying up the RS:X fleet now they're going for a song; they'd make an interesting team racing outfit to lease out to inland puddles on their 'Regatta Days'.


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 3:25pm
I bought an RSX once, sailed one race with it, then sold it immediately, the heaviest rig that ever pulled me off balance just by swinging it round in a gybe, then the requirement for a launch and recovery crane was beyond my pocket at the time, so I took up dinghy sailing instead, much more sedate those MPS's look thought I...Confused

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Posted By: Steve411
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 3:30pm
Count me in as the 2nd 300 (calendar permitting of course) -411

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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 3:34pm
Oh and the penalty/handicap system, I've worked something out that's totally fair and will work perfectly alongside the existing PY system.

So simple, it's based on physics and leverage.

Height, Take 1 PY pt per millimetre over the defined average sailing height of 1.7 mtrs
Weight, Take additional 1 PY pt per gramme over 70kgs
Age, Take additional 1 PY pt per month over 35 yrs.

That seems fair to me..


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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by G.R.F.

 
Weight, Take additional 1 PY pt per gramme over 70kgs


70kg.... pretty optimum for inland sailing in most boats.  I actually think you should add PY points for extra weight.  Sailing's no longer got 'big guys' classes.  Even the Phantom with its flat sails and bendy masts can suit the skinny 85kg chap.


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 4:01pm
Oh and I've had another idea, if you're leading overnight you have to wear a T shirt with your forum I.D. on it, ha, that should discourage RodneyLOL

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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 4:33pm
 
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Oh and I've had another idea, if you're leading overnight you have to wear a T shirt with your forum I.D. on it, ha, that should discourage RodneyLOL

I need encouraging not discouraging Ouch

The way I have sailed this year even James would have beaten me Wink


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 4:41pm
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Oh and the penalty/handicap system, I've worked something out that's totally fair and will work perfectly alongside the existing PY system.

So simple, it's based on physics and leverage.

Height, Take 1 PY pt per millimetre over the defined average sailing height of 1.7 mtrs
Weight, Take additional 1 PY pt per gramme over 70kgs
Age, Take additional 1 PY pt per month over 35 yrs.

That seems fair to me..

Not sure that's what you intended?

I am 1.75 Metres, 120 Kilos and 95 years old give or take a bit.  How does that calculate?  Not sure what the Finn PY is but let's say 1062??? I'm sure someone will know Smile




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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 4:45pm
Originally posted by rodney

 
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Oh and I've had another idea, if you're leading overnight you have to wear a T shirt with your forum I.D. on it, ha, that should discourage RodneyLOL

I need encouraging not discouraging Ouch

The way I have sailed this year even James would have beaten me Wink

unlikely... I haven't set foot in a dinghy since I flogged the 100 in March last year.  Well not one that actually floats when you step over the back anyway LOL

That being said, I don't think I've forgotten enough for Fuller to beat me yet, things aren't that bad.


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 5:17pm
Originally posted by pondmonkey

 

That being said, I don't think I've forgotten enough for Fuller to beat me yet, things aren't that bad.


Here's what you look like to me..


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Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 7:38pm
That date in october is fine with me .
As for all these extra points so far i think i have added 50 on already
Height 1.85
weight 100 kg
Age 40
sh*t i have had it already


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Posted By: pondmonkey
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 7:52pm
the likeness is uncanny... spread the marmite dear.


Posted By: LASERNUT
Date Posted: 07 Aug 12 at 9:11pm
Count me in for laser standard.

Sailorchick for radial sail.


Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 6:41am

Current list

 

Name/Username       Class   Sail number

 

Rodney                                    Finn                  GBR 53

winging it                                 ????

Mark Jardine                Laser (rat infested)

G.R.F.                           Laser EPS 124

fab100?                                    ????

ex laser                   british moth  849  or lightning 333
mrs exlaser             british moth  850   

MattK?                          ????

blaze720?                            ????

Timmus                     D-One         GBR 72

mangoman                Vortex         1013
paolochilds                   RS 100             ???

Pastyman                                 Osprey             ???

Rupert?                         Minisail             ???

robinft                      D-One          GBR 106

Peaky                           Blaze                604

redders                                    Merlin OR RS400

Thunder Road              Icon

Rockhopper                 RS300              383

Paramedic                    Merlin

LASERNUT                    Laser (std rig)

Sailorchick                    Laser radial

Steve411                     RS300              411



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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 6:51am
Mike L and Peaky, Can you please sound out your clubs and establish whether they would be prepared to host this event?  Proposed date is 13/14 October with a late morning (perhaps early afternoon) start on the Saturday, dinner/bar on the Saturday evening and an early start (perhaps 10.00 a.m.) on Sunday to allow everyone to get on the road home at a sensible time.  Say 4-5 short BTB races each day of 30-45 minutes duration.

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Posted By: Fraggle
Date Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 9:23am
Originally posted by rodney

Current list

 

Name/Username       Class   Sail number

 

Rodney                       Finn       GBR 53

winging it                    ????

Mark Jardine                Laser (rat infested)

G.R.F.                           Laser EPS 124

fab100?                       ????

ex laser                   british moth  849  or lightning 333
mrs exlaser             british moth  850   

MattK?                          ????

blaze720?                  ????

Timmus                     D One         GBR 72

mangoman                Vortex         1013
paolochilds                   RS 100             ???

Pastyman                   Osprey             ???

Rupert?                        Minisail             ???

robinft                      D-One          GBR 106

Peaky                           Blaze                604

redders                         Merlin OR RS400

Thunder Road              Icon

Rockhopper                 RS300              383

Paramedic                    Merlin

LASERNUT                    Laser (std rig)

Fraggle                      Laser radial

Steve411                     RS300              411

 
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Posted By: NeilP
Date Posted: 08 Aug 12 at 9:40am
I'll come if I can find a crew, and it fits with work - FD GBR373

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