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Topic: YachtsandYachting.com Forumites Open Meeting
Posted By: rodney
Subject: YachtsandYachting.com Forumites Open Meeting
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 12:05pm
I am thinking of organising a Y&Y Forumites Open meeting. This has been sparked by previous discussions on this forum and also the high levels of interest and input to the Olympic sailing.
My thoughts are as below:
  • Open handicap meeting for Y&Y forum members.
  • 2 days - weekend - October or November (if successful we can make it an annual event in warmer weather).
  • Maximum of 2 boats per class.
  • Maximum of 40 Entries (minimum 25 entries).
  • Yardstick range 900-1150.
  • Short B/B racing - say 4-5 races per day.
  • W/L courses.
  • Convenient location.
  • Saturday night bash, of course.

Questions:

  • Would you enter such an event? We need to have an idea of numbers to ensure the success of the event.
  • Where? Has to be a club who will accept such a rabble and has a good bar and beer cellar Wink
  • All thought and ideas welcome.
  • Will GRF join us to demonstrate his talents and amazing tactical skills? To get him there we would have to promise to prop up the bar with him Smile

All thoughts and input welcome!



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Rodney Cobb
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Posted By: MattK
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 12:12pm
Why exclude fast boats?


Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 12:19pm
it sounds a great idea!Smile

but why exclude slower boats like mine!!!!!!DisapproveCry


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 12:46pm
I don't want to exclude anyone but as I was thinking of short b/b races I was concerned about delays.  We may be able to overcome this with lap times.  Any thoughts on a format that allows for a quick turnaround between races and greater range of PYs would be welcomed.  I need some help here as 99% of my sailing is class racing.

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Posted By: fab100
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 1:03pm
You use motor Grand Prix finishing - if someone is lapped, finish them anyway and use average lap times to adjust times.

In some ways, this is actually fairer than having the slower boats keep going, in that everyone sails in the same wind conditions - we've probably all seen the Wednesday evening scenario where the wind dies leaving the slower booat stranded with no chance of saving their time


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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 1:20pm
Thanks Clive!  If we adopt this we could certainly extend the range of PYs.  Should we have a limits at all?  Maybe F/Moths - Optimists?  Thoughts please.

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Posted By: ex laser
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by rodney

I don't want to exclude anyone but as I was thinking of short b/b races I was concerned about delays.  We may be able to overcome this with lap times.  Any thoughts on a format that allows for a quick turnaround between races and greater range of PYs would be welcomed.  I need some help here as 99% of my sailing is class racing.


as above, average lap times for lapped boats would work.

BUT its worth thinking about pursuits. you could easily do two 90 min races
pursuits have a lots of advantages over normal py races. the most important of them are;

1) everybody finishs at the same time and knows the results straight away!

2) they are so, so,so much more fun!!!!!!!!!Big smile especially for the slower boats.


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Posted By: blaze720
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 2:17pm
W/L courses

Only W/L ?   The majority probably do not use an asymetric - what about triangle/Sausage - and offer something for everyone?

Mike L.


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 6:14pm
We'd suggested this before and I said then I'd happily jolly along work permitting, in fact I'd had it in my mind to suggest a sort of Formula 1 style event or association along the lines of that Tasar thing, but for single handers.

October rather than November for me, I made it a rule a while back not to go racing in sub 10 degrees windchill, the hands aint what they were. In fact why wait, tis the internet we're all here, we can pick a date in late september even and sort it out online if we can show or not.. By November the Olympics will be long forgotten.




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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 6:30pm
Graeme,  It would be great if you can came (of course that's if we get enough support to run the event).  If we can do September we will but I am  working though a busy calendar and many clubs are fully booked.  Any thoughts on where?  I did wonder if Burghfield may put up with us and also if they are able to keep the bar open for the Saturday evening?  I also need some time to work on prizes and a beer fund Smile

Mike, I always thought that the reaches on a triangle, depending on the angles. may benefit the assys as they can often carry the kite to the corner and back with no worries about tactics.  Probably best to have w/l and old Olympics course options with the race team to make the decision for each race.


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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 6:37pm
I'll sponsor it under the Electra banner, put a couple of bikes up, Girl and Boy. I'm sure we can scare up some other product prizes, depends I guess how many show up, we could be surprised..




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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 7:02pm
Thanks Graeme Smile

We will throw some nice, warm Sandiline clothing into the prizes and also fund some of the beer.

Already looking like an event to compete in!  Perhaps we should have a Masters prize also to give you and me a chance? LOL  (Zimmer Frame?)

How about a prize for James just for coming?


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Rodney Cobb
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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 7:04pm
Oh Hell!  All competitors will get a prize!

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Posted By: fab100
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 7:04pm
and I will provide a copy or three of my book - but they need to go as spot prizes rather than for the winners

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Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 04 Aug 12 at 7:08pm
Originally posted by fab100

and I will provide a copy or three of my book - but they need to go as spot prizes rather than for the winners

Thanks Clive!  Fantastic Smile

Any Forumite out there a brewer?


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Rodney Cobb
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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 8:53am
I will come.  Grumpy old woman prize please, as well as manky old boat prize.  Mind you, it will be tough choosing which manky old boat to bring...

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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 8:55am
As long as I can make it, i'm in! I need to do some sailing this year...


Posted By: rodney
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 9:38am
Thanks winging it and Mark!

I would like to get an idea on numbers of people interested so would be grateful if potential entries can indicate interest by adding to the list below.  As soon as we have an idea of numbers we will work on venue and get an NOR and Entry form together.

Name/Username Class Sail number

Rodney Finn GBR 53
winging it ????
Mark Jardine ????
G.R.F.? ????
fab100? ????
ex laser? ????
MattK? ????
blaze720? ????



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Posted By: blaze720
Date Posted: 06 Aug 12 at 9:40am
I guess Burghfield might be a good location being fairly central ... best thing is to make contact with the Commodore - Steve Barraclough via the on-site secretary there (see the website) .... would be good for a bit of publicity I'm sure.  

I'll make an initial enquiry but probabaly best if you then take over Rodney (or Y&Y if their name is being used on this one !) .... it could be a sort of recontrituted Daycote silver salver ... not necessarily for the best in their classes but for those who have laid down their on-line reputations (such as they are ... or were) in the cause of winding up each other and entertaining the rest of you ... er sorry I mean discussing important issues of the day.  

Mike L. 


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