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Topic: Laser New Wave
Posted By: Webmuppet
Subject: Laser New Wave
Date Posted: 31 Mar 12 at 8:13pm
Hi all,

I've just become the joint-owner of a Laser New Wave - that's the Laser 2 with an asymmetric kite that was introduced for a short while at the end of Laser 2 production and before the Laser 3000 was introduced. Has anyone any idea how many were produced? ........or where I might find out?

Many thanks in advance,

Nigel


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I am the milkman of human kindness, I will leave an extra pint (Billy Bragg)

Graduate 2530 'Galaxy'



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Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 02 Apr 12 at 9:06pm
It appears that this is a slightly rarer boat than we first envisaged ......we've done some digging:

The boat was built by Laser in 1994 and has a plate showing its number as LLG 385 (i.e a different number series to the Laser 2). It was purchased by a work colleague as a brand new boat directly from Laser ...collected from their Banbury facility. My wife contacted Laser today and was told that they thought only about 100 "New Wave" models were produced.....they weren't certain and they were going to try and confirm a number for us. The boat looks almost pristine now that its had a decent clean and I suspect that it'll get a thoroughly good rinsing once we've launched that kite !

Nigel


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I am the milkman of human kindness, I will leave an extra pint (Billy Bragg)

Graduate 2530 'Galaxy'


Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 02 Apr 12 at 9:58pm
Nigel

some pics would be good to see, just make sure Nessa doesnt visit this thread, you might loose it...


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Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 03 Apr 12 at 5:44am
Was it not a fork of the Laser II Fun range rather than the Laser II Race range?

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Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile"


Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 03 Apr 12 at 8:23am
I've already spoken to Nigel about this one because I sailed one a long time ago when they brought out the boats.  Laser took one to Oxford to trial it and I sailed it with my 470 helmfrom that time.  Nigel, get hold of Will Gulliver, he should know more.  And I hope you're planning on bringing it to Hunts for the cvrda open!

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the same, but different...



Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 03 Apr 12 at 5:27pm
Seen his pics on Facebook, the thing looks practically new!

Does it qualify for CVDRA Nessa or would it get in as a 'dead' class?


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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 04 Apr 12 at 11:37am
I am pretty sure it would count as a lost class.  These things are always interesting to see, as is any rarity.

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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 04 Apr 12 at 1:03pm
The only rarity I can remember about the Fun New Wave, was the odd occasion when the kite would come down cleanly into the chute.  It was the reason why, as a Laser 2 sailor, I gave up on the New Wave after being initially intrigued one Minorca holiday.

The kite arrangements were really very crudely cobbled together, with that pole sliding over the foredeck.  All solved, of course, when Laser did a proper job on the 3000 shortly afterwards.


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Posted By: davesrighthere
Date Posted: 17 Apr 12 at 3:13pm
Hi Nigel,

I too own a Laser II 'Fun New Wave'.
Boat No. LLG-370. If you have any luck with finding anymore information etc,
I'd appreciate if you could pass it on.

Thanks,
Dave




Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 22 Apr 12 at 6:47pm
Dave,

Where do you want to hold the nationals - lol

Nigel


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I am the milkman of human kindness, I will leave an extra pint (Billy Bragg)

Graduate 2530 'Galaxy'


Posted By: davesrighthere
Date Posted: 23 Apr 12 at 12:29pm
Nigel,
Would like to see if your sails are as colourful as mine :-)

Dave


Posted By: radixon
Date Posted: 23 Apr 12 at 4:29pm
Did Laser want you standing on your head to work out the letters are N W, not M U...

Nice to see pictures of the boat.


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Posted By: Webmuppet
Date Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 12:50pm
Our sails are just as colourful ! .........although, yes, it is a mystery why the sails appear to bear the letters 'mu' rather than 'nw'. Our boat hasn't seen much use for some considerable time and the mainsail appears to have shrunk - it's definitely well shy of the mast top (it's been suggested that the bolt-rope itself may have shrunk?)

Nigel



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I am the milkman of human kindness, I will leave an extra pint (Billy Bragg)

Graduate 2530 'Galaxy'


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 2:02pm
Pull the main all the way up before placing the boom on the gooseneck. you will have to pull the boom down quite a bit to get it on ( 1 to 2 inches if memory serves even with new sails). If it just won't go then indeed the bolt rope may have shrunk, if so unpick the stitching that holds the bottom of the bolt rope and ease it up an inch or so and re-stitch......Have funSmile


Posted By: davesrighthere
Date Posted: 24 Apr 12 at 3:28pm
The boat's looking really good in your picture.
I have the same spinnaker colour too.
Dave


Posted By: Wharris87
Date Posted: 30 Jan 13 at 9:34am
If anyone is looking to buy one of these fine vessels, I have one for sail- 1994, good condition, ready to sail!

Good fun, fast boat to sail!

PM or email me at will.harris'at'composite-integration.co.uk for more details.

Cheers,

Will


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Posted By: Ansel1
Date Posted: 26 Feb 13 at 2:06pm
Hello.
 I have a laser 2 regatta  and want to change it into a laser 2  new wave. That why i am looking for any information and fotos  of the new wave dingi, espacialy I liket to know, where the genakerpole is fixed to the boat  and  what kind of fittings are used. I am writing from Gemany.
It would be nice, if you could help me. Thank you. Best regards
Ansel1Smile


Posted By: Ansel1
Date Posted: 03 Apr 13 at 3:37pm
Hi Nigel,

I have a laser 2 regatta and want to change it into a laser 2 new wave.  To do this, I need information and I hope you can help me.
The thing I need to know is the length of the genakerpole and where it is fixed to the boat.
Maybe you have a photo of this.
I would be grateful if you could give me that information.
You can send me an e-mail to volker.harting@t-online.de

Thanks a lot
Volker


Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 03 Apr 13 at 3:57pm
Volker, I would strongly recommend that you try sailing a Fun New Wave,  then try a (Laser) 3000 before embarking on any modifications.

I think your choice will then lay between the 3000 and staying with the Regatta symmetric layout.  In my experience, the New Wave (and I gave it a good try-out in Minorca back when really it was new) it was a a bit of a lash up, and I wasn't at all surprised when Laser quickly dropped it and did a proper job of converting the, in itself nice, Regatta into an asymmetric in the form of the 3k.

Just my 2 cents worth, but I was and remain a fan of both the Regatta (the nicest symmetric boat I have ever sailed on a spinnaker reach, tho' I have reservations about the fit-out) and the 3k.  I wanted to like the New Wave, but gave up on it after a few tries.


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Posted By: Ansel1
Date Posted: 03 Apr 13 at 5:03pm
Thank you for the information.

As I know the hull of the 3k und the laser 2 is the same. The difference is the cockpitlayout.
I am sailing  my boat singlehanded for a five years, I never used the spi because it is too difficoult to handle for only one person. That is why I want to change the symetrik layout to an assymetric one, this is better to work with.


Posted By: Ansel1
Date Posted: 05 Apr 13 at 7:08pm
Originally posted by Webmuppet

Our sails are just as colourful ! .........although, yes, it is a mystery why the sails appear to bear the letters 'mu' rather than 'nw'. Our boat hasn't seen much use for some considerable time and the mainsail appears to have shrunk - it's definitely well shy of the mast top (it's been suggested that the bolt-rope itself may have shrunk?)

Nigel

Hi Nigel,

I have a laser 2 regatta and want to change it into a laser 2 new wave.  To do this, I need information and I hope you can help me.
The thing I need to know is the length of the genakerpole and where it is fixed to the boat.
Maybe you have a photo of this.
I would be grateful if you could give me that information.
You can send me an e-mail to volker.harting@t-online.de

Thanks a lot
Volker


Posted By: Nipper
Date Posted: 22 Oct 13 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Volker, I would strongly recommend that you try sailing a Fun New Wave,  then try a (Laser) 3000 before embarking on any modifications.
 
Just my 2 cents worth, but I was and remain a fan of both the Regatta (the nicest symmetric boat I have ever sailed on a spinnaker reach, tho' I have reservations about the fit-out) and the 3k.  I wanted to like the New Wave, but gave up on it after a few tries.
Making the above quote about the Regatta indicates that you cannot have sailed a vast number of symmetrical 2 man boats.  I owned a couple of Laser 2 regattas back in the day when they were very popular, but they were only ever slightly pleasureable on a spinnaker reach once you had thrown all the Laser centre ropes away, moved the spinnaker pole eye down to the gooseneck, and either bought a massive diameter spinnaker pole or changed to uphual attachment point to the pole end. Then you had a chance to stop the spinnaker disappearing around the forestay everytime a gust hit which resulted in lee helm. As a crew, they were the most fiddly akward uncomfortable boats I have ever crewed on.
 
Try a Fireball for spinnaker reaching for ease of handling and speed.
 
 


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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 22 Oct 13 at 4:08pm
Yep, 505 pole, dyneema sheets, loads of mods, but once you'd done that the Regatta was a great ride on a spi reach, steering with the mainsheet (a necessity the rudder was useless) - very satisfying once you got it all in balance.

Other trapeze-symmetrics I've owned? 420, 505, Fireballs (two, the latest a Winder), Hornet, Jacksnipe, but I stand by my statement re. the Regatta.  Loved my Fireballs, and the 'ball is indeed probably quicker on a kite reach, while feeling like it's on rails, but that doesn't make it as satisfying, to me at least.


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Posted By: Ansel1
Date Posted: 22 Oct 13 at 4:42pm
Hi.

Do you thimk it is possible to sail a firebal singlehandet with a sinaker ?


Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 22 Oct 13 at 4:56pm
Undoubtedly - in the right, lightish wind, dependent on how much you weigh.  I did it in my 505 and Hornet at odd times, so a Fireball would be relatively easy.

But for normal racing we found 65kg helm plus tall 70kg crew on the wire about right in the Fireball.  Certainly, I felt the need to switch to a 3000 when the 70kg male crew got replaced by a 60kg female.


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