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Topic: Cat Sailing Event Dates 2012 - Lets not clash!
Posted By: a_dowley
Subject: Cat Sailing Event Dates 2012 - Lets not clash!
Date Posted: 07 Nov 11 at 12:17pm
Hi everyone,

Every year we always manage to have clashes with events over the UK.

If you have a cat event date finalised can you please post it here so everyone else knows.

Here are the ones we know about from this discussion:

  • Weston Grand Slam = 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th April, Weston Sailing Club
  • Spitfire, Shearwater and F18 Open = 21st and 22nd of April 2012, Minnis Bay, Kent
  • Carnac = 28th April to 1st May, Carnac, France
  • Bala Cat Open = 5th, 6th and 7th of May, Bala Sailing Club, Wales
  • Solent Forts Race = 13th May, Hayling Ferry Sailing Club -  http://www.hfsc.org.uk/racing-information/solent-forts-race.html - http://www.hfsc.org.uk/racing-information/solent-forts-race.html
  • Rutland Cat Open = 19th & 20th May, Rutland Water
  • Solent Slog = 26th and 27th of May, Weston Sailing Club
  • Tornado Europeans = 2nd - 5th June, Holland
  • Nore Race = 30th June, Benfleet Yacht Club
  • Stone Cat Open = 7th & 8th July, Stone Sailing Club, Essex. (Next club down the river from Marconi and ECPR)
  • East Coast Piers Race = 14th and 15th July
  • Bala Enduro Event = 28th and 29th July, Bala Sailing Club, Wales
  • British Hobie Cat National Championships: 24th -26th August, Royal Channel Islands Yacht Club, Jersey
  • Round Sheppy Race = 1st September
  • Canvey Cat Open = 1st & 2nd September, Island Yacht Club, Canvey
  • A Class Nationals = 31st August - 2nd September, Rutland SC
  • F18 Nationals = 31st August - 2nd September, Minis Bay
  • Loch Ness Race = 24th - 27th August, Loch Ness, Scotland
  • Stokes Bay Cat Open = 1st and 2nd September, Stokes Bay
  • F18 World Championships = 7th - 15th September, Alamitos Bay Yacht Club, Los Angeles, USA
  • Forts Race = 15th & 16th September, Whitstable Yacht Club
  • Tornado Worlds = 15th - 22nd September, Lake Garda, Italy
  • Carsington Cat Open = 22nd and 23rd September
  • Reg Fest & Hurricane Nationals = 27th September - Sunday 30th September, Brightlingsea
  • Tornado Nationals - Nacra Nationals - 20Foot+ Championship (Weston Cat Open) = 2nd, 3rd & 4th November, Weston.
Thanks

Andrew


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Posted By: Nessie
Date Posted: 07 Nov 11 at 1:33pm
I am in negotiations with the farmer to try and get the use of his field for the August bank holiday 24-27 so i can eat a few more cats in 2012. 

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Posted By: Stuart O
Date Posted: 07 Nov 11 at 6:24pm
Excellent news Nessie


Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 07 Nov 11 at 9:24pm
Stokes Bay Cat Open 1st and 2nd September.

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Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 07 Nov 11 at 10:55pm
F18 nationals at Minnis Bay S.C -  31st August- 2nd September.
Also looking to hold a f18, spitfire, and shearwater open in early april although classes and date as yet unconfirmed.
 


Posted By: johnnyt
Date Posted: 08 Nov 11 at 9:58am

As a thought would it not be an idea to have a central catamaran diary so we can see when and where all cats events are being hosted including the long distance races??

Just a thought

 



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Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 08 Nov 11 at 10:13am
There is an UKCRA one John but I don't think it gets updated, hence I thought this would be a good idea.

Here is the link to the calendar.

https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=nick@youthcatsailing.org.uk&ctz&gsessionid=OK - https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=nick@youthcatsailing.org.uk&ctz&gsessionid=OK


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Posted By: johnnyt
Date Posted: 08 Nov 11 at 10:17am
Don’t get me started on the UKCRA site. It is never up dated and there are boat for sale on there that have been sold on twice since first appearing on the site.
 
Given that this is the most up to date and active forum for cat sailors it would be good to have a calendar that everyone can see what is going on. Good start with the google calendar.


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Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 08 Nov 11 at 10:24am
I agree the UKCRA site could be updated more but we have to remember that people are all volunteers working on the updates, good on them for taking on the job.

Let's keep track of the events, this was more for my benefit with the Tornado website.

On another note, they probably don't know about boats being sold. If you send me over the boats that have been sold I will pass them onto Carl and Colleen for removal from the site.

It would be great to have a tool which people can add to themselves but I know from experience that the spammers just love that sort of stuff.

Cheers

Andrew


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Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 10 Nov 11 at 3:02pm
The Y&Y online calendar has a 'feed' page which can list events for just one club or class - but it also handles general multihull events too.

This link will show a basic web page of all multihull events:
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/calendar/feed.asp?type=HTML&class=237 - www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/calendar/feed.asp?type=HTML&class=237
It's also available for RSS.
(This might help you more than the 'search' page, where you need to enter just one class.)

Now, it looks a bit bare at present, because we have reached the time of year where open meetings have died off, and people are arranging next year's dates, but have not published to Y&Y yet. Always a sorry time of year for any online calendar!

If the cat classes/clubs send in details of any fixtures already booked (such as the ones listed in the first post on this thread) to Y&Y, the link above will then give you a better idea of clashes in 2012.

If you wish to add your own events to the Y&Y calendar, please sign up:
http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/calendar/admin_join_new.asp - www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/calendar/admin_join_new.asp


Posted By: nacra
Date Posted: 12 Nov 11 at 7:50pm
Hi All were proposing the solent slog weekend to be 26th 27th of may, does that clash with anyone?

Grant  Piggott


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Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 3:03pm
Can now confirm minnis bay are holding a spitfire shearwater and f18 open on the 21st and 22nd of april 2012 bring your drinking boots.


Posted By: Stuart O
Date Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 9:11pm
Think the Piers race is weekend around 8/9 sept....well thats the date I have in  my diary and Im down as PRO


Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 16 Nov 11 at 9:20am
You mean the Forts Race Stuart? I will add it into the first post.

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Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 11:26am
Have just been sent a press release about the British Hobie Cat National Championships: 24-26 Aug 2012, Royal Channel Islands Yacht Club, Jersey.


Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 17 Nov 11 at 1:02pm
Thanks Mags, very helpful!

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Posted By: nacra
Date Posted: 19 Nov 11 at 8:59am
Carnac 2012 is 28th april to 1st of may longer than normal!



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Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 29 Nov 11 at 4:19pm
Any news on graftham? I wouldnt blame them if they didnt have us back but it would be a real shame.


Posted By: F18
Date Posted: 29 Nov 11 at 6:34pm
Hi,
 
Is that Carnac date last years?!


Posted By: Sprint Bob
Date Posted: 02 Dec 11 at 5:49pm
Originally posted by oz man

Any news on graftham? I wouldnt blame them if they didnt have us back but it would be a real shame.
Hi,
The Grafham Management Council met last night and today have put out the following statement:
 
"Unfortunately, following vandalism incidents at the last 3 Grafham Cat Opens, it has been decided by the Flag Officers and Council of GWSC that we cannot allow the Cat Open to continue in its present form.  We have decided that for 2012 we will allow a restricted and rebranded event to take place, effectively only allowing boats to enter that have been previously part of the “slow” fleet (including Dart/Sprint 15s). However should similar acts of vandalism occur in the future then GWSC will undoubtedly take further action.

 We are sorry that this means that the “fast” catamarans will no longer be able to take part, but we cannot allow the repeated selfish acts of a very small unidentified minority to adversely affect the event, the sailing club, or our relationship with our neighbours.

Tom Smith,

Commodore GWSC"

The Grafham Cat Open has been the UKs biggest Catamaran event for the last 25+ years and now sadly come to an end.  This is the result ot the vandalism which has occurred for the last 3 years consecutively. Doubtless it was just one or 2 individuals who were to blame, but they have stopped was has been for many the highlight of the Catamaran Season.



Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 02 Dec 11 at 7:38pm
Bob - completely understand. Must be gutting for the club to make that decision


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Posted By: oz man
Date Posted: 02 Dec 11 at 7:57pm
Not at all surprised.I hope the idiots responsable are pleased with themselves although i suspect they dont give a toss.
I have been going to grafham for over twenty years and would like to say thanks for the opens they have put on and hope we will be allowed back in the future.


Posted By: Local Produce
Date Posted: 02 Dec 11 at 9:15pm
Maybe we can all borrow Darts for the weekend. 

A bit gutted really, Grafham was a real celebration of cat sailing in the UK.


Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 02 Dec 11 at 9:53pm
Originally posted by oz man

Not at all surprised.I hope the idiots responsable are pleased with themselves although i suspect they dont give a toss.
I have been going to grafham for over twenty years and would like to say thanks for the opens they have put on and hope we will be allowed back in the future.
 
Agreed; I've missed 2 in 30 years.  My dad was Fleet captain and I am currently fast cat fleet captain. 
 
I worked very hard to get this years event on after 2 years of problems; now wonder what the feckin point was; I now look stupid.  
 
Who ever it was; Well done idiot.   If you know who it was; please apply considerable pressure.


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Posted By: Goldenballs
Date Posted: 02 Dec 11 at 10:49pm
All,
 
The date for the Solent Forts Race will be 13th May.
 
This is a new long distance cat event held in the Eastern Solent; see http://www.hfsc.org.uk/ - http://www.hfsc.org.uk/
 
Hopefully no clashes with any other events!
 
Richard


Posted By: shadeux
Date Posted: 03 Dec 11 at 12:17pm
This is sad for cat sailing but have these sort of problems happened at other cat opens? If not, why Grafham?

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Posted By: anewscents
Date Posted: 03 Dec 11 at 1:22pm

They (Grafham) either have a good idea that it was someone from the fast fleet or using fleet split as a method of deduction.

 

I am fairly sure the persons responsible are known and that the incidents do not spread as they do not attend many/other events in England.  To be fair, I am not convinced they have been responsible for both previous incidents (maybe one of them) but that does not excuse the behaviour having been forewarned.  Such a shame they did not quietly admit to it and take responsibility for their behaviour (even anonymously)... esp. as it has such an affect on others.

 

 



Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 03 Dec 11 at 2:49pm
What's happened?

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Posted By: Multiplex
Date Posted: 10 Dec 11 at 5:15pm
Hi!

A Class Nats - Rutland SC, Sept 1st-2nd.  Training day on the 31st Aug too!.

Thx

Gordon Upton
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Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 20 Dec 11 at 8:10pm
Carsington cat open 22nd/23rd September 2012, confirmed on club calander.


Posted By: Yello Streak
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 1:32pm
Hi John... and everyone..
 
I am webmaster for the nacraclass site and I have an embedded google calendar for events..
 
http://www.nacraclass.org.uk/events.html - http://www.nacraclass.org.uk/events.html
 
I will go through this message thread if this is what is wanted and add all the dates into here..
 
further more I am prepared to put out a cat diary website for everyone...  but I need people and more importantly class associations to give me the info..
 
I too am fed up with the UKCRA site.. I tried to place a rocket under the people responisble a couple of years ago but seems they were not interested.. maybe I need to enhance and make a 'alternate UKCRA' site..
 
your thoughts please......


Posted By: a_dowley
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 1:57pm
Hey Yello Streak,

Feel free to add these events to the calendar, it's a good idea. Everything which has been posted in this thread has been added to the first post.

Speaking to the people who currently run the UKCRA site, they also have the same problem, if they don't get the info they can't update the website. Often event dates change at the last minute or they receive incorrect information. 

I guess there are just too many places to look for events and their dates. The main reason I added this was to avoid clashes of events.

Cheers

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Posted By: Yello Streak
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 3:13pm
OK..  Watch this space!

If anyone has any other events email me direct at catamarans@carsingtonsc.co.uk and I'll do the updates..

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Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 3:26pm
I've also been told about:
17-18 Mar - Fast Cat Open Meeting - Datchet Water SC
20-21 Oct - Catamaran Open Meeting - Grafham Water SC

All the events listed in the first post of this thread have been added to the Y&Y website calendar too (thank you!). Input your class name (or just the word "catamaran") in the search box on http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/calendar/ - www.yachtsandyachting.com/calendar to see a list of all events relevant to you.

Alternatively our feeds work for cats too:
1) http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/calendar/feed.asp?type=HTML&class=237 - simple html table
2) http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/community/calendar/feed.asp?type=XML&class=237 - RSS / XML

These will also include the general handicap events which allow multihulls.


Posted By: Andymac
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 3:58pm
Originally posted by MerlinMags

I've also been told about:
17-18 Mar - Fast Cat Open Meeting - Datchet Water SC
20-21 Oct - Catamaran Open Meeting - Grafham Water SC

 
I thought the Grafham event had been shelved due to repeat 'vandalism' at the previous three events, or has the issue/culprits been 'sorted'?
Netherless, they are hosting the Sprint 15 class inlands over that weekend.


Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 4:05pm
The Grafham event was added to the Y&Y calendar by Barry (from the club) back in December.

I also see the event is still listed on the club's own website:
http://www.grafham.org/?page_id=3213 - http://www.grafham.org/?page_id=3213


Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 4:11pm
I thought I heard that the Grafam event is for 'slow' cats (if they really exist!). Maybe they are bringing the classes in as smaller groups, so they can identify the culprits!
 
They do have the event posted on their website


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Posted By: johnnyt
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 4:30pm

I have reviewed the list at the start of this posting and from a Hurricane and Bala catamaran club perspective all the events seems to be included.

 

It is possible to put them on a Google calendar so we can link our personal calendars to it? I know this was something that the F18 class did

 

From previous postings the Grafham event was only open to Dart 15’s and none of the fast cat classes. That was my understanding

 

Good to see cat sailors  coming out of winter hibernation



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Posted By: Nacraman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 5:54pm
Originally posted by Yello Streak

Hi John... and everyone..
 
I am webmaster for the nacraclass site and I have an embedded google calendar for events..
 
http://www.nacraclass.org.uk/events.html - http://www.nacraclass.org.uk/events.html
 
I will go through this message thread if this is what is wanted and add all the dates into here..
 
further more I am prepared to put out a cat diary website for everyone...  but I need people and more importantly class associations to give me the info..
 
I too am fed up with the UKCRA site.. I tried to place a rocket under the people responisble a couple of years ago but seems they were not interested.. maybe I need to enhance and make a 'alternate UKCRA' site..
 
your thoughts please......

If you actually look closely at the events page on the UKCRA website you will see it links to a google calendar for classes and clubs to post their events (it has been set up like this for the last 2 years!!). My partner has been running the website for the last 3 years on a volunteer basis and to be honest, has got a bit fed up with the lack of content sent to us to keep the site fresh. This has been compounded by my partner having taken on 2 jobs in the last  year or so leaving no time to be proactive in refreshing the site.


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Posted By: Yello Streak
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 6:39pm
Bizzarly we were both discussing this very thing together a couple of years ago when we set up the nacra class association

perhaps we could use UKCRA's google calendar instead and if your prepared to share the login then I can update that on your behalf.

We only want to get all the events in one place after all.   


Posted By: Nacraman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 6:58pm
Originally posted by Yello Streak

Bizzarly we were both discussing this very thing together a couple of years ago when we set up the nacra class association

perhaps we could use UKCRA's google calendar instead and if your prepared to share the login then I can update that on your behalf.

We only want to get all the events in one place after all.   

The google events calendar is managed by Nick Henson via the email address ukcra.events@live.co.uk


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Posted By: MerlinMags
Date Posted: 30 Jan 12 at 3:17pm
I see the Martello Race at Pevensey Bay (cancelled last year) allows cats. Is that a popular one with you guys? Not sure of the date but I might do it myself in an inferior monohull...



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