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Topic: The RS100 Owners Thread
Posted By: G.R.F.
Subject: The RS100 Owners Thread
Date Posted: 13 Jan 10 at 5:36pm
Now it's no longer a prototype, and a magnificent production ready to
sail item, launched today at the LBS with ll due ceremony by the guys at
LDC, well done everyone and thanks for the champers..

So wondering around the show after, a couple of guys came up to me and
we exchanged names and greetings having bumped into each other at the
launch, so I suggested this as a meeting point to exchange sailing
venues, swap notes and quirks as and when they arrive until such time
everyone meets.

Then having done that I remembered we've got a facebook group, but
then facebook can be a bit lame, there again some folk feel forums are
lame, Whatever, here's a thread, feel free to introduce youselves as and
when you get one, find out bits of sailing intel etc etc.

I'm counting the days.

Think I'll stick to the small sail that big sail looked massively powerful on
the stand.


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Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 14 Jan 10 at 11:01am

Originally posted by G.R.F.



Think I'll stick to the small sail that big sail looked massively powerful on
the stand.

Just eat more...



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Posted By: Beardy
Date Posted: 14 Jan 10 at 6:15pm
SWMBO has stated that I have to leave my credit card at home when I go to the Show on Sunday, so I won't be joining the ranks of 100s any time soon. She's such a spoil sport!

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Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 14 Jan 10 at 11:09pm
Hi Guys,

Name: Chris Cunningham

It was really good to meet you and the other expectant owners at the
show. It was the first time I had seen the boat at all and I thought it
looked stunning and very well sorted - better even than I had anticipated
from following the development blog.

If it goes half as well as it looks, it will be a fantastic boat. Can't wait to
get mine now, although I won't be sailing until April due to other
commitments.

Very keen to find out other owners in my area - I know you are out there
but not quite who yet ! I'm based in South Devon and will be sailing mine
mostly at Paignton Sailing Club (in Torbay) and at Teign Corinthian (on
the Teign estuary). But I will also travel for events.

I've opted for the big rig as I am looking for powerful and rewarding
performance in the typical marginal force 2 to 3 conditions that seem to
be the norm in the Uk and I'm around 14 stone. Having now seen the big
rig it does look pretty grunty so going to need to get fit fast !

My present boat is a Vortex Assymetric (which i will be keeping for
breezy days and for class racing - its a great boat in good wind and a
very friendly class). I also crew on a 49er (weekend warrior standard).
Never sailed a hiking boat before (crossed over from windsurfing straight
into trapeze boats) so slightly apprehensive about the pain that is yet to
come !

Anticipate attending the Nationals and looking forward to meeting up
with other RS100 newbies in my area. I think its going to be a great class
and am very pleased to be in from the outset.

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 14 Jan 10 at 11:23pm
You found it then Chris, nice catching up with you..

I forgot to mention there's also a facebook group when we spoke, meeting
up here was the first thing that came into my head having just finished
talking to Mark.

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Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 15 Jan 10 at 4:32pm
Hi Graeme,

Yes I am pleased I said hello and it was good to meet you.

I have sort of known you for a long time through windsurfing (together
with my brothers Bob and Pete, we have been involved pretty much as
long as you have - a VERY long time!). I recall you did me a good deal on
a Screamer LCS back in the dark ages !

Last time I saw you was at Weymouth Speed Week - on a kite (the very
very dark side) and wearing an SS field battle helmet !!

I saw you guys have a Facebook page going. (I was on Facebook but
closed my account when I started to get 'Friend Requests' from ex's who
should be best forgotten !)

Look forward to seeing how this post develops over time and to meeting
up at future RS100 events.

Cheers

Chris

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: rushy
Date Posted: 15 Jan 10 at 8:31pm

Another ex windsurfer over here, my first "proper" board was a Klepper 272, bloody quick until the deck and hull separated, interesting self rescue!

Chris Gillies, member of Gurnard SC, thats on the Isle of Wight, previous boats include, Express, Marauder, 470, ISO, Blaze, Vareo, Blaze+kite(brilliant),RS600,RS700 and one day soon RS100. We have 5 on order at Gurnard, nearly a fleet, 8 boats gets us our own start, Cowes Dinghy Week is run from our club last week in July, our downwind legs can be miles long (100 nirvana) so if you and your family want a week on the Isle of WIght, thats the week to do it.

We will definately be putting a posse together for the Nats, just over the water for us.

I too am counting the days, I just don't know how many days to count! (RS?)



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Posted By: Phil J
Date Posted: 16 Jan 10 at 10:33am
Hi all,
Phil Jackson here.
I sail at Parkstone Yacht Club in Poole, Dorset.
I've got a 100 on order along with 5 others at the club.

It looks like we're going to host the first Nationals and
we also have a regatta week which runs 29 Aug through to
the Friday (3rd Sept.) before the Nationals so if anyone
fancies a warm up to the Nationals you are more than
welcome.

I've setup a PYC fleet web site which can be found
http://sites.google.com/site/pycrs100/ - here

Cheers,
Phil


Posted By: 5420
Date Posted: 17 Jan 10 at 12:50pm
hi all
jamie morgan
i sail at grafham
iv got a 100 on order
used to race vareos and lasers about 4 years ago spent
the last 4 years working on and off as a sailing
instructor but finshed now and fanced raceing agen so
orderd one and hopfaly be traverling to events and stuff
when it get deliverd agen rs?

also another ex windsurfer for the class

thanks jamie

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Posted By: Demo Dave
Date Posted: 01 Feb 10 at 10:11am

RS100 production is fully up and running in the Thailand factory, with another busy weekend for the team Can anyone spot their boat?

There are even more boats around the corner.....



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UK RS Sales


Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 01 Feb 10 at 11:35am
Looks like a trip around a D.I.Y warehouse. Let´s hope the hulls are good
quality.

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Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 01 Feb 10 at 11:54am
Reminds me of that bit in Star Wars when they are grouping together the first army of storm troopers!!

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Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 01 Feb 10 at 10:35pm
Charlie,

Wow, that is a great sight-for-sore-eyes ! Boats looking very nice. Was
starting to think that new RS100's were rarer than Swiss made 3DL sails !

Spotted mine - its on the LHS waiting for the keel thing to be bolted on !

Is that a factory fitted centreboard - or a test board ?

Role on end March !!

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 01 Feb 10 at 10:38pm
Can't seem to spot mine.

I hope they remembered I'd ordered red.

Then by now it should be in it's container winging it's way here by now..

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Posted By: Villan
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 12:16am
H&S Training speaking - Get those boats out of those clear passageways! Don't make me come over there ...

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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 6:57am
so, GRF, on a packed start line, you'lll be the one that the RO finds it easy to pick out if a couple of boats are over early?

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Posted By: bigwavedave
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 7:46am
GRF's boat is in one of the blue racks. They've made and stored it like that since that is how it will look when he gets it on the water. On its side

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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 8:04am
Originally posted by Demo Dave

RS100 production is fully up and running in the Thailand factory, with another busy weekend for the team Can anyone spot their boat?

 

There are even more boats around the corner.....

 

Is that a red boat on the right of the picture?? 



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Posted By: haroosh
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 8:41am

Hey GRF,

Maybe you could get a RED kite at least?

I'm thinking black or white might look smart.......

Keith.



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RS100 GBR 116 (XLR8)


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 8:49am
Originally posted by Merlinboy


Is that a red boat on the right of the picture?? 



Nope, that's the pink one. (Don't tell him yet it's a surprise we cooked up for
him).

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Posted By: rushy
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 9:30am

Well I'm reasonably impressed, Looks like near cleanroom conditions, I've been in plenty of factories and boatyards and this looks pretty good in comparison, I do think though that Charlie's being a bit of a prick-teaser showing us these pictures and telling me April delivery, I really want one now.



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Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 1:22pm
RS100 production is fully up and running in the Thailand factory, with
another busy weekend for the team Can anyone spot their boat?

Charlie - what are they doing in the WEEK then - making Reliant Robins ?

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: Demo Dave
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 1:47pm

ChrisC - i'm sure if they had the time during the WEEK then they'd be only to happy to build you, your bespoke 'Racing Reliant Robin' but they are all go on building RS100's right now with the careful QC from Jim Hood and the rest of the CMI team.

I have to say though that Reliant Robin racing could be the next thing... you might have something there - start of a new thread, who's in? 

Sorry for being a bit of a prick-tease though with the photo's. It proves though that they are on their way and i for one am looking forward to getting mine.



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Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 5:51pm
Hi Charlie,

Only joking - please don't delay !!

Actually looks a pretty amazing sight. Would love to visit !

Cheers

Chris

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Not now Kato (you fewl) !

RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: Stevie_GTI
Date Posted: 02 Feb 10 at 6:01pm
Originally posted by Merlinboy

Originally posted by Demo Dave

RS100 production is fully up and running in the Thailand factory, with another busy weekend for the team Can anyone spot their boat?

 

There are even more boats around the corner.....

 

Is that a red boat on the right of the picture?? 

 

No, by looking at it I would say it is the deck mold



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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 03 Feb 10 at 7:57pm
Originally posted by Stevie_GTI

Originally posted by Merlinboy

Originally posted by Demo Dave

RS100 production is fully up and running in the Thailand factory, with another busy weekend for the team Can anyone spot their boat?

 

There are even more boats around the corner.....

 

Is that a red boat on the right of the picture?? 

 

No, by looking at it I would say it is the deck mold



It's a Fire Extinguisher surely?


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Posted By: Crows
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 12:22am

I got to see the RS100 in the flesh at the SN and I like it a lot.  unfortunately I am out of the demographic for the boat (10 stone is never going to work)

can I offer the challenge of the shustoke gauntlet to you guys on the 14th feb to show how the boat will perform on restricted waters, because I know within the club there are many who are muttering in interest.



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Posted By: Demo Dave
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 7:56am
Both Anthony York and myself will be at the Tiger Trophy this coming weekend sailing in two RS100's. Now i am no rock star as a sailor so don't expect anything too glam as far as results are concerned - remember i spend most of my days sat at a computer (like most of you guys it would seem) and when i do get to a sailing club, i'm generally stood on the shore watching, but i'm up for giving it a blast. So please come and find me and take a look at the boat in the flesh, or if it's too cold/windy (here's wishing for some wind!) then i'll be in the bar afterwards.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 8:34am
Maybe not a rockstar Charlie, but I think you can tell which is the front and which the back - have a great time.

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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 7:08pm

"300 with stabilisers"

Or

"Two for D-One" Obviously meaning you could get two for the price of one D-one.

or my favourite:

"I went to LDC and ask for a long weight......This is what they came back with"



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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 04 Feb 10 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by Merlinboy


"I went to LDC and ask for a long weight......This is what they came back
with"



Long Weight!

Sounds like a better name

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Posted By: haroosh
Date Posted: 10 Feb 10 at 11:12am

Another update on the development blog....

http://www.rssailing.com/index.asp?selection=Development%20Blog&fn=RS100 - http://www.rssailing.com/index.asp?selection=Development%20B log&fn=RS100

Lots of info.

Just thinking ahead with the 2 rigs what are they going to be known as? Simply RS100 10.2 and RS100 8.4 or I wonder if the 300 style A and B rig may be better.

I am really curious what the take up on each rig will be as I get the feeling that the smaller rig may be more popular than the smaller of the 300 rigs which seems quite unusual.

Cheers,

Keith.

 



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Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 10 Feb 10 at 12:06pm
Hi Keith,

Thanks for the update. I checked the development blog yesterday and
nothing had changed at that time.

Personally I think the '10.2' and '8.4' titles are better than A and B (I
hadn't previously been aware of this for the 300 until I started looking at
other single-handers).

Does anybody know yet what the weight limit cut off points are - are
these the same as for the 300. At 85kg presuming I am just in the heavy
category and I have gone for the big rig because I am looking for
optimum light to medium air performance (the sort of conditions where
Solos and Phantoms cane my Vortex !).

Interesting to see that the smaller rig has a higher PY proposed. Had
thought that the weight equalisation with the big and small main would
give a very equal figure and the speed advantage would then be with the
lighter sailors because of the bigger kite downwind.

Note also the comments about difficulty using kite on reaching legs,
which I had anticipated based on the sail area. Personally not planning on
doing any 'reaching' if I can help it (leave that for the windsurfers!) as
cant see how that is compatible with an assymetric boat - or any other
boat for that matter (follow the leader procession with minimal tactical
opportunity) !

Role on end of March - when the fun will really start !

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: haroosh
Date Posted: 10 Feb 10 at 12:19pm

Yes I am about 10.5 stone so had no option but go for 8.4m2.

I remembered the discussion about PY's and my impression was that for club racing there might be the different PY's but when one design sailing they would all be together (until there is enough numbers of each rig at events to justify splitting results?).

My plan is hang on upwind then make up the places downhill!!!!

Cheers,

Keith...



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RS100 GBR 116 (XLR8)


Posted By: haroosh
Date Posted: 10 Feb 10 at 1:11pm
So are you a big rig James?

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RS100 GBR 116 (XLR8)


Posted By: asterix
Date Posted: 16 Feb 10 at 7:45pm

Brilliant James - Congrats on the new boat.

Did you go down to Chandlers Ford to collect it?

Keep the info coming and I am sure I will do the same when mine arrives (late March)



Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 16 Feb 10 at 8:02pm
I'm glad I waited for that 2nd batch, with that new epoxy bubble resin that
reduces a the weight and increases the stiffness.

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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 16 Feb 10 at 8:24pm
When can i have a blast then Jimbo????

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Posted By: asterix
Date Posted: 16 Feb 10 at 8:26pm
Sounds like it will be worth the drive down. I tried to look pretty
closely at everything At the boat show, but could do with as many tips
as I can get even on the basics of rigging and set up.

From speaking to them I think GRF's boat was made last Friday
afternoon;-)

Dave (Asterix)


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 16 Feb 10 at 8:37pm
I can't believe he's got his so soon.

What's that all about I wonder?

Vareo Guilt?

Forum Pimp bonus?

I am jealous.

Think I shall go out into the yard and kick the dog.

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Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 16 Feb 10 at 9:17pm
Hi James,

Great update - thanks.

Bummer that you got one of the early boats with a soft-sail rig - new
ones coming with solid wing rig and 1000msq genniker (soo.... 2009 soft
sails and spinakers !).

Hope there is absolutely no wind for the next month & half - so you don't
get too much early practice !!

Role on end March !! Cant wait now.

Chris

PS - how could you miss the AC racing !!!! Absolutely awesome racing
and so great to see Bertarelli blown away so convincingly.

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 16 Feb 10 at 10:14pm
Originally posted by ChrisC

Hi James,



Chris

PS - how could you miss the AC racing !!!! Absolutely awesome racing
and so great to see Bertarelli blown away so convincingly.


Why are you guys so pro American? I can´t believe it!

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Posted By: Stevie_GTI
Date Posted: 16 Feb 10 at 10:17pm
Glad you enjoyed the experience James. Enjoy the boat!

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Posted By: asterix
Date Posted: 16 Feb 10 at 10:19pm

Originally posted by Slippery Jim

Originally posted by ChrisC

PS - how could you miss the AC racing !!!! Absolutely awesome racing
and so great to see Bertarelli blown away so convincingly.



Why are you guys so pro American? I can´t believe it!

Not pro American just pro fairness and good sportsmanship - I was fully behind GGYC and BMW/O simply because of the totally
unreasonble agreements between ISAF and SNG, and the complete
lack of independence in having SNG run the racing seemingly by any rule they
thought would suit Alinghi best



Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 9:05am

I reckon the way james is talking about the RS 100 he is eyeing up the fleet reps jobs i think all you guys should put him forward for it as there is no doubt that he is  the man for the job

I will look forward to seeing you at the RS fleet reps meetings ???????????????

Go for it james its not hard i know i enjoy being the vareos fleet rep !!!!



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Posted By: haroosh
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 10:02am

Hey James great you have your boat.

Is yours the first customer delivered boat?

Are there others now delivered along with yours?

Just out of interest did I read that you are opting to tow with the mast taken apart? Is it easier than leaving assembled and laying in mast post as per normal.

Cheers,

Keith. 



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RS100 GBR 116 (XLR8)


Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 10:08am

Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by Stevie_GTI

Glad you enjoyed the experience James. Enjoy the
boat!


I'll try my best Steve!

Jim- same as Dave re BMWO. It's popular misnomer that the AC33 was nothing
more than a dick-swinging pi$$ing contest between two billionaires. However
further time spent really trying to understand the AC33 and all its bullsh*t
reveals that the contest was not who actually has the biggest dick,
it in fact who's acting like the biggest dick- a reverse-win game of
bullsh*t, PR, legal wrangling, rule infringement and blatant displays of
arrogance- and for that Ernesto won it in spades, therefore forfeiting the
moral victory before it even got on the water. The personalised insults to
RC and LE were well outside of any sportsmanship displayed in our sport, the
conduct was not only detrimental to sailing in terms of sponsorship
revenues, but quite frankly it makes you embarrassed to be European, but
then Swiss aren't really are they?

Putting himself on the stick just capped off how much of prick he really
is... arrogance is never a virtue. He was completely out-gunned in the pre-
start on the first race, and even with Spithill's own confession of a f**k-
up for getting stuck in irons, Bertarelli conceded that lucky 600+M lead
within the first 5NM... okay BMWO wing and trimming was superior technology
with expert execution no question, but FFS, how many times did Alinghi have
two hulls dragging- up and downwind... surely that's sloppy helmsmanship,
and quite frankly an arrogant insult at this level of the sailing game.

Anyway back to RS100s and real sailing... hey I've just had a thought on the
next AC... Nick, what's happening to those two old prototypes kicking around
the yard?

I was of the opinion that the legal battles mostly went the way of the Americans, esp. the choice of venue. Also, imagine getting  out to the Middle East venue, having BMWO tolerate the venue seemingly, sending out reps to talk to the other side about onshore facilities  etc. and then having that dipstick American court jester turn it around, virtually in the last minute.

Well, let 'em have the dammned thing and shove it. After all, the Americas Cup was designed for an American arse. The Swiss ARE European. We Brits can't cope with: the EU and being with it when it means responsibility, seing other European nations able to do with/without it. It fair makes me puke when I see what other "island apes" think about what was originally part of their heritage.

 



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Posted By: asterix
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 10:21am

Oooh, this is just like SA!

lets keep this thread for the RS100s - there are plenty of AC threads wher we can all get our handbags out!



Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 10:34am
Originally posted by asterix

Oooh, this is just like SA!

lets keep this thread for the RS100s - there are plenty of AC threads wher we can all get our handbags out!

Ok! Sorry about the highjack!. At dawn then and.. no horse shoes in yours this time eh



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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 10:35am
Originally posted by Slippery Jim


I was of the opinion that the legal battles mostly
went the way of the Americans, esp. the
choice of venue. Also, imagine getting  out to the Middle
East venue, having BMWO tolerate the venue seemingly,
sending out reps to talk to the other side about onshore
facilities  etc. and then having that dipstick American
court jester turn it around, virtually in the last
minute.


Well, let 'em have the dammned thing and shove
it. After all, the Americas Cup was designed for an
American arse. The Swiss ARE European. We Brits can't
cope with: the EU and being with it when it means
responsibility, seing other European nations able to do
with/without it. It fair makes me puke when I see what
other "island apes" think about what was originally part
of their heritage.


 



News flash: Fog in Channel - Europe isolated.


Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 11:33am
God sorry I mentioned to AC - wont do it again !!!!

James, back to the interesting stuff.......

Whilst the rest of us are killing time till the end of March (knitting,
posting on AC forums (!), windsurfing (Yeah !)), would be really
interesting to hear from you more typical settings / set up as you start to
learn the boat.

All of this is going to be very new for me personally but would be
interested to know kicker / sheeting angle/ pointing or footing /
centreboard etc. etc.

Immediately following getting my boat (hopefully end of March) will be
just before big local regatta and probably wont have had any time in the
boat at all (probably rigging it for first time on morning of first race !).
Hence any advice would help reduce the 'muppet factor'.

Keep that advice coming.

Chris

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 12:16pm

Still think your the man for the job with all this info coming.I have an idea why dont you get some footage of you setting the boat up and sailing so everyone else can view your trail and error while learning.

Good luck to you all with your 100s i hope the vareos will share some events with you in the future.



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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 12:57pm
He's doing this deliberately.

Tilting at bloody windmills

Hey Don!(Quixote for the ignorant amongst you, look it up)

STFU!

We haven't got our fecking boats yet!

Then you know that don't you?

You b**tard..


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Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 1:24pm

Originally posted by G.R.F.

He's doing this deliberately.

Tilting at bloody windmills

Hey Don!(Quixote for the ignorant amongst you, look it up)

STFU!

We haven't got our fecking boats yet!

Then you know that don't you?

You b**tard..

Easy GRUMPF!

That's a terrible lisp you have in bold type.

Sorry they haven't been able to squeeze the toothpaste tube to fill out the moulds quickly enough.

But the good news is your new dentures are on their way to you right now. That's a preventative measure. Just in case anyone takes a swing at your hamstead.

 



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Posted By: asterix
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by haroosh

Hey James great you have your boat.

Is yours the first customer delivered boat?

Are there others now delivered along with yours?

Just out of interest did I read that you are opting to tow with the mast
taken apart? Is it easier than leaving assembled and laying in mast post as
per normal.

Cheers,

Keith. 



Hi Keith,

No I was not alone, 2 boats from the first five went to UK consumer
customers, 3 have gone via RS's distribution network to onward
customers, not quite sure which countries though.

Of course leaving the mast in one piece is easier, but break it down gives
options and safety considerations.

The Hyde mast bag can accommodate the mast in either full one piece or
broken down into the upper, lower and stump sections- nice designed bit
of fabric that, worth the money if you're planing on travelling much.

cheers

Jimbo

So the big question is who got the other customer boat and where is that one going to be based?



Posted By: haroosh
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 1:41pm

Yeh I was wondering that.

Possibly not a forum attendee whose got something better to do with their days.



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Posted By: Martin - LSC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 1:48pm

Keith, Have you got a firm date for your boat yet? Have asked JP, but no news so far

Perhaps Nick could give us all some general rig and sailing set up advice, even with some piccies?

When sailing the Finn, I found it great to have so much set-up information - made getting started dead easy. .... and removed the excuses!!

Obviously it'll not be as easy on the 100 as we're the guninea pigs this time!



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Posted By: haroosh
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 3:06pm

End of March.

I am expecting the initial rig setup to be pretty straight forward with only the ram and the caps to adjust in static mode.

Then after time get a feel for how much rake is required dependant on wind.

Cheers,

Keith

 



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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 3:14pm
Rake???  Christ the only rake Jimbo knows about is the one his servants use to mop up the leaves on the tennis courts!  Don't even asking what do do with a RAM??!!  I'm sure he a welsh descendant!

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Posted By: Merlinboy
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 3:41pm

Jimbo all this adjustment sounds bloody complexed fella!  I know you like a bit of string and a few blocks, but Jesus! 

I'm not sure what a welsh/essex hybrid would would look like, but i'm guessing:



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Posted By: haroosh
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 4:14pm

Bit tricky on a rotating mast with no stays?



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Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 4:48pm

So the big question is who got the other customer boat and where is that
one going to be based?

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Did hear there was a Swiss guy on Lake Geneva possibly looking to get into a
new class - but they wouldn't let him join in because he insisted on having
the right to change the the rules, to be the judge and jury and be able to
change the boat and the venue at the last minute !

I'm sorry, did say I wouldn't go down that route again !!

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: asterix
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 4:56pm

lol

 

perhaps he is going to take measurements for new parts on his boat



Posted By: asterix
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 5:18pm
Oh no not the Swiss again!


Posted By: Stevie_GTI
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 5:27pm
I'm sure somebody knows who got the first uk consumer boat

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Posted By: laser193713
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 5:59pm
Originally posted by haroosh

Bit tricky on a rotating mast with no stays?



Thats exactly what an oppy has!


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Posted By: MB226
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 6:21pm

Well chaps, I know exactly who has an RS100. Turned up at my club, Blackpool and Fleetwood YC last Sunday to see a nicely wrapped up, mast down and stored under the top cover, 100.  I won't give the name away and let him have bragging rights, but its one of two that are due here in the next month. Should give us Phantom sailors something to race against... !

Shame but wind was so light on Sunday (and its a strong tidal estuary), the new owner decided not to get it wet.



Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 6:55pm
Anything to do with Mike Saul ?

That is his neck-of-the-woods I think (i.e North of Bristol !)

Is it not all frozen over up North ?

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 6:58pm
Quote:

Should give us Phantom sailors something to race against... !


Bloody hope so - or I will want my money back !!

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: MB226
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 7:08pm

Don't think so, I believe he got it direct (though not collected from the factory,but thats another story),  though yr right, Mike S is based somewhere East of here, Yorkshire Dales SC ?.  Anyway, courtesy of global warming, gulf streams, and the snow knowing its rightful place down in the South and East, its not been bad 'oop North(West) this winter.

Hope to catch site of the 100 this Sunday as we continue through our Frostbite series. If he thrashes the Phants, then I'm gonna start another thread about bandit 100 handicaps...LOL



Posted By: Skiffybob
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 7:19pm

Originally posted by ChrisC

Quote:

Should give us Phantom sailors something to race against... !


My money would be on the Phant.



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Posted By: Hector
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 7:37pm

Just to torture Grumph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysPwJpO3xqs&feature=sdig&et=1266431212.91 - More video



Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 7:39pm
It had better not be you getting one before me hector or I shall chuck every
rattle I own out of the pram.

That link doesn't work, the dog flinched when i noticed it.

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Posted By: Hector
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 7:43pm

Link updated

 



Posted By: Hector
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 7:46pm

Apologies to GRFs dog.  I wonder - Can the RSPCA do me as an accessory to animal cruelty?

RE Earlier post, Mike Saul of MS Dinghy supplies is based in 'Gods own county' - at Hampsthwaite near Harrogate and is indeed a member at Yorkshire Dales SC where there will soon be a demo RS100 - and possibly more

MSDS are the place to get your RS100 ordered assuming you are from 'north of Bristol' of course!

And ChrisC - hope you're not selling the Vortex!



Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 8:41pm
Hi Hector (alright Keith I know its you !)

No, definately not selling my Vortex ! In a 3 and above the Vortex is great
and as you well know gives us great racing and shed loads of fun for
minimum outlay - I describe it as an "easy to sail one man 49er" !!

Just looking to expand the challenges particularly in lighter airs on my
restricted local tidal river, which is not the Vortex's strongest point
(although doesnt seem to hold back Chris T !).

Hear you have got one reserved. Any of the other boys at YDSC
considering one ?

Cheers

Chris

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 9:48pm
Chris has got one coming and Keith getting one too?

Will be combined vortex / RS100 events before we know it.
Get it delivered by May then and we'll have a look at YDSC


Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 9:58pm
Hi Simon,

Think even you would struggle to pitchpole an RS100 !!!!!!!

I ordered mine within minutes of the launch offer being announced (had
been following the development blog) as a 'treat' after two years off on
my never ending (and still not finished !) house build project.

Look forward to racing with you boys this year (in the Vortex).

Cheers

Chris

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RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: FireballNeil
Date Posted: 17 Feb 10 at 11:34pm
I like the 100, but it got seriously outcooled in that
video at 3:46 when the musto flew past!

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Posted By: simonrh
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 9:00am
Chris,

It is a lovely looking thing, quite jealous.

Are you *sure* I couldn't pitch pole it? That just sounds like a challenge.

Si


Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 9:00am
Originally posted by FireballNeil

I like the 100, but it got seriously outcooled in that
video at 3:46 when the musto flew past!


Yes I noticed that..

First creeping doubt set in.

Could have been lucky gust though..

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Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 9:09am

Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by FireballNeil

I like the 100, but it got seriously outcooled in that
video at 3:46 when the musto flew past!


Yes I noticed that..

First creeping doubt set in.

Could have been lucky gust though..

Wait 'til the toothpaste sets before you make your final judgement GRUMPF



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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 10:11am
Originally posted by Slippery Jim


Wait 'til the toothpaste sets before you make your final judgement
GRUMPF



Well that's an interesting Germanicism that didn't make the translation..

The toothpaste 'sets'?

I guess you're talking about that stuff that keeps your dentures in place..

They put Fluoride in our water years ago, you even get a dose when you
capsize on the London Res's, so we've pretty much all still got our own
teeth.

I realise with the preponderance of male to male oral sex in Germany your
toothlessness is advantageous..

But no, the toothpaste doesn't actually set over here..

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Posted By: Slippery Jim
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 10:28am
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by Slippery Jim


Wait 'til the toothpaste sets before you make your final judgement
GRUMPF



Well that's an interesting Germanicism that didn't make the translation..

The toothpaste 'sets'?

I guess you're talking about that stuff that keeps your dentures in place..

They put Fluoride in our water years ago, you even get a dose when you
capsize on the London Res's, so we've pretty much all still got our own
teeth.

I realise with the preponderance of male to male oral sex in Germany your
toothlessness is advantageous..

But no, the toothpaste doesn't actually set over here..

Meaning "sikaflex" or  generically, marine silicon.

What prompted the rest?



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Posted By: G.R.F.
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 10:56am
As I once pointed out to a friend and colleague who worked Long term in
Munich, the human body is over 75% water inevitably the process of total
Germanification sets in by natural causes and with it, total sense of humour
failure.. (and an obsession with Pork Knuckles)

He returned to Blighty where he now runs courses, therapy helplines for
expats recently returned with ridiculous notions, like unnatural Boat choice..

Do you want me to book you an appointment?

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Posted By: laser193713
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 11:22am
why did i not just buy one of these while they were cheap!? It looks like the perfect boat for me as a cross between a laser and a 700, if i sell both now it leaves me with about 6500 quid, annoyingly just short of a 100! I recon this is a boat i could jump straight into and be reasonably competetive because of my laser sailing and the assy work from the 700.  I'm kicking myself!

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Posted By: ChrisC
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 11:29am
That is a great shot !

Back to the video (thanks Keith), and as a continuation of the "compared
to a Phantom" discussion... at 4.40 on the video is that a Phantom that
the RS100 nicely sails under and out in front after rounding the leeward
mark ?

Nice move if it is !

Having followed the transom of a lot of Phantoms upwind in the lighter
stuff (!) no doubts at all about what a fantastic weapon it is in those
conditions - if the 100 does match it then that will be a considerable
achievement - however, downwind.....dont think there will be any
comparison - the inboard kneeling down position for the Phantom
running is the one thing that put me off ever going down that route.

Back to the video, she appears very nimble (more so than I thought) and
looks like she planes pretty easily with the kite in not much breeze.

Reckon that Musto is being towed by a RIB though ! But there again, that
is chalk-and-cheese and wouldn't expect any comparison at all as the
PY's show. Beautiful boat the MPS for those good enough to sail it well
and with suitable open water.

Think the 100 is going to be LOADS of fun !!!!

Had thought of calling my boat "Simples" - but she-who-has-to-be-
obeyed said if I did she wouldn't let me have the money !!

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Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)


Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 12:41pm
Looks like a Solution to me, rather than a Phant (concave foredeck).


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Posted By: laser193713
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 1:24pm
how would that work when the total value of both boats is only 6500 quid?

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Posted By: Hector
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 1:30pm

Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by FireballNeil

I like the 100, but it got seriously outcooled in that
video at 3:46 when the musto flew past!


Yes I noticed that..

First creeping doubt set in.

Could have been lucky gust though..


No it's because the Musto Skiff is faster- bigger sail area, bigger righting moment with a trapeze.

The RS100 has a TN of 1005 with it's biggest rig, the MPS has 875... no intention for David to slay
Goliath I'm afraid.

May I suggest, dear Sancho, you refocus your efforts looking for some more windmills?

I've seen this guys video equipment - big big lens. So distances are foreshortened - the musto could be half the distance away. If so, she could be going same speed but would appear to be going about twice as fast.

Probably a combination of effects going on inthis shot and yes the Musto is definately going faster, but if speed alone = cool what about the speed that Moth goes through the frame?



Posted By: Hector
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 1:46pm

Hmm-  not explained that very well have I!?

An example of what I mean is at the start of   http://www.youtube.com/user/shockwave40#p/u/39/zwf9B9yz74Q - this video of a Sunfish apparently passing a fast looking trapeze boat while going about twice as fast!!



Posted By: timnoyce
Date Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 1:52pm
That Sunfish is RAPID. Completely destroyed that Alto!  Its on video, so it must be true!

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