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Topic: Any Ideas?
Posted By: Beebe
Subject: Any Ideas?
Date Posted: 25 Mar 05 at 9:25pm
Is there a singlehanded trapeze/spinniker boat out there for a
lighweight person? (ie 8 stone) I want to helm but fancy
something more exciting than a laser etc. Any ideas? Thanks



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Posted By: ioanlavery
Date Posted: 25 Mar 05 at 9:37pm

singlehanded trapeze boats tend to have adjustable racks these days,(RS600/RS700/MustoSkiff) so no matter what weight you are you can correct with the racks and corrector weights.  Although, at 8stone might be a bit of a handful - not to mention jumping out to the racks and back in ! (unless you're 6ft+ tall !)



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Posted By: Beebe
Date Posted: 25 Mar 05 at 9:42pm
Unfortunately not - 5 foot 3 at best! Am I better off in a laser
radial then?


Posted By: ioanlavery
Date Posted: 25 Mar 05 at 9:46pm
not necessarily ... guess it'll come down to what experience you have of trapezing.
What about a twin trapeze boat? At least you can then get a heavy crew to help equalise the weight  !!

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Posted By: Contender443
Date Posted: 25 Mar 05 at 10:25pm

I think there is a definite market place here for a lightweigt trapeze single hander for juniors, ladies and smaller men.

I am 6 foot tall and 87kg and obviously sail a Contender.

Black No Sugar fancies a go on my boat but in the long term she would struggle. In particular righting after a capsize - the weight of the rig plus water on the sail makes it hard. I am sure this is also the case with the other boats mentioned.

Then for some light weights the sheet loads may also be too much and finally handling the boat on the beach.

Why should the Laser radial, 4.7, Topper or Byte be the only options? 



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Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 25 Mar 05 at 10:44pm

the other optons are

1: dont worry about the trapeeze and get an mx-ray or a concept 302 but neither are being made anymore or have a class association.  (then again you could modify them to high heaven and still sail off the old handicap with noone the wiser)

Or 2: get a two handed boat, there are plenty to choose from, and you are about the right weight to crew on most of the smaller trapeeze/asymmetric boats on the market. 

Secret option C: get someone to design a 'youth' version of the musto skiff/700



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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 26 Mar 05 at 9:44am
Yup- I would say your at least a stone too light for a radial as well if you want to be competitve, you'd be more suited to a 4.7.

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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 26 Mar 05 at 10:25am
the lasers are good but i can see what beebe wants and it doent excist at the moment!

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Posted By: hydrographer20
Date Posted: 26 Mar 05 at 10:30am
no there is a deffinate market for that kind\ of area because after a while toppers and lasers are so standard they become rarther boring.  i can thinkof a high performance dinghy for light weight sailors because they are ususally to hard to handle

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Posted By: Mike278
Date Posted: 26 Mar 05 at 11:19am

It also depends on how competitive you want to be, as if you just want to have fun and don't mind the odd swim on windy days then you could sail an RS600/700, or other performance singlehanders.

Alternatively you could helm a twin wire cherub, and find a bigger crew.



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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 26 Mar 05 at 2:44pm
your about the right weight to helm a 29er

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Posted By: Beebe
Date Posted: 30 Mar 05 at 7:00pm
I've thought about gettin a 29er bt i've got no one to sail with as
there is a distinct lack of juniors at my club so i've been
freelance crewing for people at the club. Do you think if I
begged RS/ Topper etc they would design me one on the basis
that there is a huge market for them? . .


Posted By: Lucy Lee
Date Posted: 30 Mar 05 at 11:03pm

Beebe,

surely if you want the ultimate high performance single hander  you want a MOTH http://www.int-moth.org.uk - www.int-moth.org.uk ? At 8 stone you'd fly in lighter wind than the big boys, and because it is a development class you can get the rig set up to suit your weight so you can handle it in a breeze.

Who needs a spinnaker or trapeze when you can have hydofoils? That's what I'd be sailing if my helm suddenly fancied a break from the Cherub! 

We share loads of events with the mothies and they are the 2nd friendliest bunch of sailors I've ever met so I'm sure they'd give you loads of help and advice if you get in touch.

Lucy 



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Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 6:02am

Alternatively there is the Farr 3.7 - only sailed in New Zealand at present but it would seem to fit your description.

Here is the link - http://www.sentech.co.nz/Farr37/ - www.sentech.co.nz/Farr37/

They are a 3.7m hull (similar to a Byte) with an 8.8m2 carbon rig with trapeze so nice and easy to right... you just have the hassle of importing from New Zealand...



Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 13 May 05 at 11:26pm

How about a Laser 3000? Great lightweight sailors' boat with trapeze and asymmetric kite.

You can sail it two-up or singlehanded with or without the trapeze, using any combination of mainsail, jib (on a furler) and spinnaker.

Check out http://www.laser3000.lasersailing.com/ - http://www.laser3000.lasersailing.com/



Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 14 May 05 at 12:01am
Originally posted by Blobby

Alternatively there is the Farr 3.7 - only sailed in New Zealand at present but it would seem to fit your description.

Here is the link - http://www.sentech.co.nz/Farr37/ - www.sentech.co.nz/Farr37/

They are a 3.7m hull (similar to a Byte) with an 8.8m2 carbon rig with trapeze so nice and easy to right... you just have the hassle of importing from New Zealand...

That's the boat I've asked you to get me for my birthday! Where is it???

Seriously, it does look like a pretty boat, full of fun but not too powerful.

Maybe Blobby, you should investigate into exporting it to the UK!



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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 14 May 05 at 12:09am

Just one thing, not really related to this thread (sorry)

How on earth can people do that??

Sail barefoot? Aren't you likely to catch your toes in the wires, shrouds, etc? Do you get enough grip?
Then again, I'm no sailor...



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Posted By: bigwavedave
Date Posted: 14 May 05 at 1:44pm

Sailing barefoot is great, until, you rub all the skin off the top of your foot from hiking, stub your toe on the self bailer and step out of the boat straight on to a really sharp stone, all on the same day. Then you buy a pair of boots, never sail barefoot again and wonder why you did so in the first place.



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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 14 May 05 at 6:02pm
Barefoot is great but I do take my boots with me for when i get out of the boat on shore, Lots of hidden rocks + jellyfish at certain events.

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Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 14 May 05 at 7:16pm
bigwavedave, i did exactly that last summer....i have never been in so much pain before and the fronts of my feet are scard badly from barefoot sailing...dont advise it!!!!

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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 14 May 05 at 7:24pm
yer i sailed all summer with no boots on and after a week i have a bad rash and i couldnt hike out for about a month after that!!

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Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 16 May 05 at 4:13am
Originally posted by Black no sugar

Originally posted by Blobby

Alternatively there is the Farr 3.7 - only sailed in New Zealand at present but it would seem to fit your description.

Here is the link - http://www.sentech.co.nz/Farr37/ - www.sentech.co.nz/Farr37/

They are a 3.7m hull (similar to a Byte) with an 8.8m2 carbon rig with trapeze so nice and easy to right... you just have the hassle of importing from New Zealand...

That's the boat I've asked you to get me for my birthday! Where is it???

Seriously, it does look like a pretty boat, full of fun but not too powerful.

Maybe Blobby, you should investigate into exporting it to the UK!

They said i wasn't allowed to put a boat in my hand luggage - sorry!

You think I should change business and move into imports and exports...hmm, maybe, but on second thoughts I am far too lazy for that...



Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 16 May 05 at 7:30am

Pity

I quite fancied one of those. It would have made a change from a leaky Topper... I never knew just how much water a Topper hull can hold!!


Think about it, Blobby... If you get into imports/exports, it would give you a chance to come back to GB and visit all your Forum friends (while trying to flog them a boat )



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