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Finn & Yngling Race 1

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Topic: Finn & Yngling Race 1
Posted By: alstorer
Subject: Finn & Yngling Race 1
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:04am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/live_action/default.stm?lmpid=b00cpfhv&sid=7534974 - Currently watching here

Looks bloody grim. Ainslie leading in the Finn.



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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:07am
Very and I mean VERY light winds

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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:09am
14 second lead at mark 3

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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:09am
12 or so second lead round mark 3. Final downwind leg now.

The wind might be rubbish, but the ten minutes I've now watched, the coverage is rather good.


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:28am
Looks like he's down to third or fourth- the horror of being able to do so little when micro-puffs come through, even when you're top of the game.


Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:32am
Talking now about the tide affecting the sailors - not great

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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:33am

It looks dire doesn't it.

Huge tide and no wind - Ben's dropped right back on the final leg...



Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:33am
It would appear that Ainslie is not out of the lead group - Greece leading

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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:36am

Greeks won the race, Ben Ainslie has finished ninth - make that tenth. He lead by 100 metres at the windward mark but a shift and drop in wind half way down the final run let through 9 other sailors.

Qingdao is going to form!



Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:37am

And the result is..... I think

Greece

USA

Poland

India

France

Croatia

Brazil

 

 

GBR - 9th ish



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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:38am
Make that 10th

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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:44am
Gutting. That can't be fun. Well done to the Greek guy though. And most of the top seeds well down the rankings too.

The long lens cameras do foreshorten things horrilbly

Who's the guy in commentary box with Shirley?


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:46am
Sounds like good news from the Yngling course though- from 11th at the final windward mark to 2nd at the finish!


Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:47am

Richard Simmonds is doing the commentary with Shirley.

Sounds like the Yngling girls have fought back to second after being last at the first mark!



Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 7:47am
Don't know who the King Edward is (commentator), but just said that GBR is 2nd in the Yngling after been dead last at the previous mark

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Posted By: Mark Jardine
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:08am

I've now got the results online - go to

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=142837 - http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/?article=142837

 



Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:15am
In sequence for Yngling Race 2. Commentary team asleep?


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:21am
South Africans seemed to get a good start there


Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:27am
I thought the two classes were supposed to be on seperate race areas? The fleets just sailed through each other...


Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:42am
What awful sailing conditions  but no doubt Jim thinks it's fine

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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:48am
Dutch have opened up a HUGE lead, but can they make it stick?

Stern cams make me a bit queasy


Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:55am
I'm just off to watch some paint dry ...

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Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:57am

 

Looks like a replay of the last Olympics; a poor start for Ben but it just fired him up and look what happened



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Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:57am
hehe. Not exactly high-octane excitement, is it?


Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 8:57am

Wind is a mess, but it is the same wind for all - so work with it

 

Very impressed with the speed of the spinnaker lifts and drops in the Yngling races



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When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss

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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 9:00am

Ainslie leading race 2

 

 

The Dutch Yngling team have never sailed together before this event - and they are leading race 2 by minutes



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When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss

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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 9:08am

Ainslie wins race 2

Guess he will be 3rd overall



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When you find a big kettle of crazy it's probably best not to stir it - Pointy Haired Boss

Crew on 505 8780



Posted By: alstorer
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 9:09am
They've not sailed together in actual competion, but they had many imes during the training/selection process. An interesting experiment in putting together a team- they used three boats, three bow, three middle and three helms, and chopped and changed repeatedly.


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 10:03am
Originally posted by Guest#260

What awful sailing conditions  but no doubt Jim thinks it's fine

I never said it was wonderful, I just said I thought they'd get to race. But race two didn't look too bad.


Posted By: tmoore
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 1:41pm
when is the next 'session' showing?

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Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 1:58pm
49ers. Tomorrow morning. 6 am

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Posted By: timeintheboat
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 2:31pm
Is it all on the water judges? There seem plenty of congestion around the marks with the Ynglings - what was the USA doing with the kite up dodging the boats still coming up the beat - didn't seem to do them much harm though.

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Posted By: Vronny
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 4:08pm
Yes, the USA Yngling looked as if it had got in the way of several boats as it gybed onto port and started the run. But the commentators didn't seem to notice any of that!


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 4:22pm
I saw at least two other boats doing turns in that race: I'd be suprised if they'd have got away with anything significant. Telephoto foreshortening?


Posted By: Vronny
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 4:50pm

By the way, if you go on the ISAF site you can find out what the On-the-water Jury busied themselves with today.  http://www.sailing.org/olympics/racing/onwater.php - http://www.sailing.org/olympics/racing/onwater.php

Looks like several Finns got caught for pumping. The Greek Finn that won the 1st race seems to have had to do turns - and then what happened in the 2nd race?



Posted By: Lukepiewalker
Date Posted: 09 Aug 08 at 6:03pm
A second infraction of rule 42 in the regatta (and third and so on) requires the sailor to retire from the race. Failure to retire leads to a non-discardable DSQ.
For third offences and so on sailors are required to retire and will be given a non-discardable DSQ. Failure to retire will result in an early plane home.
It's all in addendum P of the sailing instructions.

http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/08_OG_SailingInstruct%20ions-%5B5934%5D.pdf - Sailing Instructions


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Posted By: tack'ho
Date Posted: 10 Aug 08 at 2:26pm

I wonder how much pressure has been put on the Race Officers to start races, after all the Chinese would have looked pretty silly if not alot of races happened?

I'm not sure I'd have strated a couple of them if I were on the Comittee boat.

thoughts?



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