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Topper Sport 14

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Topic: Topper Sport 14
Posted By: davidhix
Subject: Topper Sport 14
Date Posted: 21 Jul 08 at 2:00pm
Does any one have any tips or gold nuggets they would like to share on racing the Sport 14.  I have had the boat 11 years and although I am not the greatest of helms really good performance on our club lake continues to illude me.  On some points of sail it can be very fast and on others darn right embarrasing, in light airs the boat is a disaster and I often I also lose a lot of speed rounding a mark (but this may be the helm?).  In a pursuit the boat is started with the Lasers, but as I am a solo sailor managing the kite is often a hindrance, but without it the boat often does not have the downwind pace.  The User Manual is little more than a text on how to put the thing together and offers little wisdom on tuning the boat.  I have often found getting a good main sail shape in the Mylar mainsail at set up is difficult and results in many creases. If you have any advice on how to set it up for sailing predominantly under main and jib I would really appreciate it. Thanks!



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Posted By: Jamie600
Date Posted: 21 Jul 08 at 2:23pm

 

Hi David,

It's difficult to say without seeing you sail but the obvious answers to the problems you've mentioned are get your weight forward in light airs, and for mark rounding try and turn a nice smooth curve without using the rudder too much, and start your turn wide from the mark so you can then cut close to the mark without loosing speed. Other than that the best advise is to read up on racing (the sail to win series is a good place to start) and watch other boats.



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Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 21 Jul 08 at 2:45pm
You are fighting two problems here, firstly sailing it single handed will always be slower, realistically you are well within your rights to have the handicap adjusted to make account of this.  Secondly the boat was not desined to race, and has never performed well on the race course, by topper's own admission they got it wrong (even more so with the sport 16!!)  I would suggest that you read up the the tuning guies for the enterprise and wanderer for a general overview of how to set the boat up, the principles will be the same, even if the application differs slightly. 

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Posted By: davidhix
Date Posted: 06 Aug 08 at 10:00am

Phil & Jamie,

Many thanks for the Sport 14 replies,  belated due to holidays.  I have taken note of the advice and will put it into action,



Posted By: Laserfan
Date Posted: 31 Aug 08 at 9:24pm

I am just wondering the number of persons that can be carried by a Sport 14, some say 2, some say up to 5 but I could never find the "official" information. Does anyone have the answer (maybe from the user manual ?). I seriously consider buying one used Sport 14 for family sailing, (we are 2 parents and 3 teen agers, let's say about 350 kg total family weight).

Thanks for any advice you could give.



Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 01 Sep 08 at 5:06am
2 Parents and 3 teenagers sounds like an awful lot for a 14 foot boat... I think you'd need to go at least Wayfarer sized.


Posted By: Rockhopper
Date Posted: 01 Sep 08 at 7:59am

hi laserfan

we have a sport 14 in our club and we have had three adults and kids in so it does carry the weight well they are good boats well made and strong just not very fast but are good as training boats.it will never race to its handicap .

so i would say get one and enjoy it.

 



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Posted By: davidhix
Date Posted: 03 Sep 08 at 10:27am

Hi Laserfan,

I have not made any firm plans but had toyed with the idea of selling my Sport 14.  If you wish to contact me on mailto:david@nematron.net - david@nematron.net   perhaps we can discuss your interest?



Posted By: GsyNiall
Date Posted: 26 Oct 14 at 11:55pm
I've just joined the group and this forum.  I've just acquired a Sport 14 and noticed that this thread mentions a "User Manual" - can anyone tell me where I can get one, or possible send me a PDF of theirs?

(The previous posts are all dated 2008 - so I maybe talking to no-one!)


Posted By: bert
Date Posted: 27 Oct 14 at 3:02am
Originally posted by Phil eltringham

I would suggest that you read up the the tuning guies for the enterprise and wanderer for a general overview of how to set the boat up, the principles will be the same, even if the application differs slightly. 


The above quote should point you in the right direction for set up advice ( hopefully ) guides for other class's are usually available via their class web site,otherwise ask local sailors at your local sailing area/club for their advice on set up & handling tips.
The user manual wasn't much more then a guide to putting it all together from what I can work out.

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Posted By: newsailor
Date Posted: 08 Dec 16 at 3:43pm
Hello, I just got a Sport 16 and I'm looking for the manual. Does anyone have one? Any help will be much appreciated. I've got in touch with Topper but they only have a few pages of the original one. 
Thanks a lot.


Posted By: ifoxwell
Date Posted: 08 Dec 16 at 3:50pm
Talk to Vantage sailing they may be able to help

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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 08 Dec 16 at 9:43pm
Yup, Stuart is a Topper Sport owner. He also owns/owned a Spice (he's had a couple) and sent me a .pdf of the Spice manual a few years ago. An all round good guy.....


Posted By: Flynt
Date Posted: 09 Dec 16 at 9:25pm
Originally posted by newsailor

<span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px; : rgb255, 255, 255;">Hello, I just got a Sport 16 and I'm looking for the manual. Does anyone have one? Any help will be much appreciated. I've got in touch with Topper but they only have a few pages of the original one. </span>

<span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px; : rgb255, 255, 255;">Thanks a lot.</span>


Send me your email.and i'll.send you what I could get from.TOPPER inc.


Posted By: Woo Woo
Date Posted: 19 Aug 18 at 10:39pm
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