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Topic: how old do u have to be?
Posted By: sailor.jon
Subject: how old do u have to be?
Date Posted: 11 Jan 05 at 8:49pm

Forgive me if this isn't in the right section, I wasn't sure where to put it.

ok so Iíve looked on my club website and found that in the new season Iíll have to be assistant officer of the day, Iíve never done it b4 so it should be a good experience (obviously less time sailing tho ) so I was wondering is there an age restriction as to when u can start doing these duties? Does it vary club to club? At the moment Iím 15, 1 of the occasions of me been "AOOD" are when I still be 15 the rest Iíll be sixteen, so the age restriction can't be 16 (if there is one) can it?

Any help at all will be appreciated
cheers

 

 



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Jon
Vortex 1169
http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club



Replies:
Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 11 Jan 05 at 8:52pm
Yoy can do it at our club at any age, I was aood at about 11, with exp.l adult as ood.

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Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 11 Jan 05 at 8:55pm
yeh thats kinda what i thought, ive just never had to do it b4

woo just realised i'm a groupie, yay i'm no longer a newbie

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Jon
Vortex 1169
http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club


Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 11 Jan 05 at 9:09pm
hey, i did it first when i was about 11....go for it!

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Sailor Girl, Queen Of The Forum!


Posted By: Adam84
Date Posted: 11 Jan 05 at 9:14pm

Different clubs get people to start doing it at different ages, its all up to the club. I hate doing it cos I dont get to sail that day!



Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 11 Jan 05 at 9:19pm
yes, it's thought of as a bad job at our club! no one ever wants to do it!

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Sailor Girl, Queen Of The Forum!


Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 11 Jan 05 at 9:23pm
i have to do it for 2 races on the saturday series, 2 races on the sunday series and 2 races on the wednesday night series, so i miss 6 of the club races n ones a trophy race, i'm not complaining (it may seem i am)

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Jon
Vortex 1169
http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club


Posted By: Adam84
Date Posted: 11 Jan 05 at 9:26pm
I always get my dad to do it for me, its a good way of getting out of it!


Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 11 Jan 05 at 11:47pm
Welcome to the elite band of Race Officers.  This is a seriously responsible job which often gets abused by people who are not able or brave enough to do it themselves.  Whatever age you are you should be proud to have been chosen to do this job which requires skills which can only be gained by being very good at dinghy racing.  It is also a great opportunity to make sure you know how races are run and will be the best preparation you can get to understand all the constraints - you'll be better at racing after you have done your duty, particulalry at starting, I guarantee.


Posted By: Doctor Clifford
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 9:43am
Originally posted by Adam84

I always get my dad to do it for
me, its a good way of getting out of it!


That is a horrific attitude, and one, if held by many in
your generation, will see the end of Clubs able to run
using a volunteer / amateur establishment.

Think what you get for your measly junior
membership fee, and the tiny percentage of time that
you have to carry out duties (like everyone else)

If your Dad does it for you, he obviously does not
think that advancing your moral fibre is a worthy part
of your education.

It's a sad day

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Dr. Clifford

take two tablets twice daily


Posted By: Doctor Clifford
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 9:44am
Originally posted by sailor girl

hey, i did it first when i was
about 11....go for it!


This is a good attitude

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regards
Dr. Clifford

take two tablets twice daily


Posted By: Adam84
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 2:08pm
Doctor Clifford, ill have you know im a very active member of my sailing club, up till when i left for uni I was a member of my sailing commitee, also when ever there is an open meeing at my club im the first to volunteer to help. This year alone Ive helped at pritty much ever comp the club has held this year. Im a sailing instructor and spend most weekends teaching people to sail so if ive got the chance to sail but cant cos im on duty my dad offers to do it as he knows how mush i miss out on in the summer months. I belive this is a very good attitude to have, you shouldnt go putting people down when you dont have the facts. In future put comments on that are more constucive.


Posted By: Adam84
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 2:38pm

Aslo Dr Clifford,

  How dare you question my 'moral fibre' or what my dad thinks is important in my education you have no right.



Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 2:44pm
Well Adam84 perhaps you should have stated the facts in the first place.  Spelling and punctuation wouldn't go amiss either


Posted By: Adam84
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 2:54pm

I dont worry about my spelling in a forum. I didnt think I need to state all the facts I didnt expect such a persomal attack on my attitude.



Posted By: Adam84
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 3:13pm
Sorry Personal 4 the benefit of Pierre, I know i cant spell


Posted By: Pierre
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 3:17pm
That's better.  1 house point for effort!


Posted By: Adam84
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 3:26pm
I didnt even need a dictionary!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: Brian
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 3:42pm
ok ok ok ok cool it

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Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 4:12pm

thread being re-directed to banter....



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Posted By: Brian
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 4:17pm
more like 'rant' er

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Posted By: Doctor Clifford
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 4:25pm
Apologies, but it did read fairly badly. Generally
agreeing that duty was a bad thing etc.

good to hear you are an active member, though

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regards
Dr. Clifford

take two tablets twice daily


Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 5:12pm
adam 84   you are a typical oppy kid..if it rains, you don't want to ruin your hair or designer clothing so 'daddy' does it for you...seriously, dont rely on your dad, you learn alot when you're a younger sailor if you're willing to put the effort that is.




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Sailor Girl, Queen Of The Forum!


Posted By: Adam84
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 5:24pm

Thanks Dr Clifford. I didnt mean the comment in the way that you shouldnt help at ur club, cos ya should. Sailing clubs rely on active members that put effort into running the club.

Sailor girl ive put more effort in than most people I know. I know what you mean but honestly a aint a typical oppi kid. eg It took me over 3 years to make enough money to get my boat. I dont rely on my dad.



Posted By: Brian
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 5:50pm
sheesh, u make it out as if u hav never done anything wrong in
ur life.

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Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 5:54pm
i know this is off topic, but since i started i guess i'm allowed to change it

brian what u sailing now? (just wondered i can't remember if you've said,)

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Jon
Vortex 1169
http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club


Posted By: Harry44981!
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 6:29pm
he doesn't sail anything.

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Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 6:57pm
he doesn't have a boat but he wants a 29er, or an iso

I think we have all heard that way too many times!

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Sailor Girl, Queen Of The Forum!


Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 9:15pm
Put it this was, you can't really complain about someonne else's ability to be race officer unless you can and do do a better job on a regular basis, chipping in gives you an excuse to complain when other people mess up your race. 

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FLAT IS FAST!
Shifts Happen


Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 9:16pm
oh yes ive heard plenty about the 29, iso's r good boats as well tho

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Jon
Vortex 1169
http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club


Posted By: Brian
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 9:21pm
too big for a 29er i reckon, so aimin 4 an Iso, which look pretty close performance wise, thanks for the support there sailor girl (and stop callin me, its not my fault u cant come online!)

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Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 9:25pm
look he's already fighting off the women! :P



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Jon
Vortex 1169
http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club


Posted By: Brian
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 9:34pm
i rather think women are fighting to get away from me mate...

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Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 12 Jan 05 at 10:12pm
well don't tell em to stop ringing u then, i want to go see my g/f no fone credit lol

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Jon
Vortex 1169
http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club


Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 13 Jan 05 at 6:13pm
i was pranking you, it's suposed to anoy you and then you would stop texting me grrrrrrr i think we have been through this way too many times, do i have to change my number or somthing...and don't try making out that im trying to get in contact with you, far from it

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Sailor Girl, Queen Of The Forum!


Posted By: Brian
Date Posted: 13 Jan 05 at 6:17pm
told ya jon

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Posted By: sailor.jon
Date Posted: 13 Jan 05 at 6:18pm
lol, i beleive u now

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Jon
Vortex 1169
http://www.yorkshiredales.sc/ - Yorkshire Dales Sailing Club


Posted By: Lazorsharp
Date Posted: 13 Jan 05 at 7:36pm
How old do u hav to be to be an instructor? I know u need qualifications but do u need to be over 16 or summat?


Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 13 Jan 05 at 8:28pm
UK? RYA site has all the requirements (www.rya.org.uk - look under training)but to be an instructor you have to be 16 (I'm doing this from memory but think I'm correct!) You also need to pass a pre-entry assessment before doing the course, which isn't too difficult if you're doing plenty of sailing (most people I've spoken to are worried about the sailing without a rudder but in my view MOB is more difficult because you have to get it perfect first time). If I remember rightly mine was in a F5 with big waves and I had to slam the boom out to stop the boat as I was travelling too fast. We also did it with a real crew falling in the water and if it hadn't been for the safetyboat standing by them I would have lost sight of them after going 2 boat lengths. You also now need powerboat level 2.

Bear in mind that you will have to be able to sail a range of boats competently and if you're smallish that can be a challenge in a Wayfarer (on the other hand you haven't seen me (85Kg) sail an Oppie).



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Garry

Lark 2252, Contender 298

www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk


Posted By: Rob.e
Date Posted: 13 Jan 05 at 8:35pm
Good to see Sailor Girl and Brian sniping at each other again, just waiting for Hurricane to wade in now....BTW, I wish I could get my dad to do my OOD for me, but he just wants to nick my boat when I can't sail it! He's 74....I guess it's my fault for buying a Solo, he never tried to go out in the 300!


Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 13 Jan 05 at 8:40pm
Just a note on duties which started this. At BCYC they don't give me duties while the training is going on, in recognition of the fact you're giving up so much of your time for the club. A bone of contention I have is that being OOD is about much more than just organising the racing and yet many club members focus just on that!

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Garry

Lark 2252, Contender 298

www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk


Posted By: Brian
Date Posted: 14 Jan 05 at 8:18am
shes in denial people

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Posted By: big man
Date Posted: 05 Feb 05 at 12:34pm
yup i did the duty first when i was eleven but now they are making me race officer instead of assistant race officer. now i see why they sent me on the course to get qualified to do the job.

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keep it flat you t***


Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 08 Feb 05 at 9:51am
i'll stick to rescue duty had plenty of practice collecting a certain windsurfer at our club

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Posted By: big man
Date Posted: 09 Feb 05 at 12:44pm
hey stu i seem to remember us going windsurfing quite alot in the summer, i also remember you getting stuck at the bottom end of the lake. I also remember you walking back instead of surfing back. whilst you mentioned the subject windsurfing why dont you tell everyone how long it took us to get to anglesea and why considering we live in north wales. Directions anyone????   

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keep it flat you t***


Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 10 Feb 05 at 10:06pm
might pay to invest in a map with the A55 on it! oops!

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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 02 Mar 05 at 10:35pm

You guys are quite lucky to have done OODing at such a young age, we were never included in things like that, im 17 and have only ever asisted once and that was at the open of the youth class i used to sail and only because it was my helm who was OODing.

I know everyone moans about having to do it, its cause they dont get to sail but also because they know how much people moan at the race officers if they get it wrong having been there and moaned themselves.

All you guys saying about the rescue that you do, do your clubs have an age restriction on helping on saftey cover.



Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:40pm
power boat two is a must!!

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Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 5:41pm
Yeh we have to have that to drive them but didnt need it to help on rescue, and I must admit I did break the level 2 rule sometimes, mostly after sailing though.


Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 7:34pm
Anyone under 16 in charge of a club safety boat (regardless of their qualifications) should get their parents to check the club insurance policy otherwise they might end up with a very large bill if involved in an accident!

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Garry

Lark 2252, Contender 298

www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk


Posted By: KnightMare
Date Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 7:39pm
Yeah good point. Or just make sure you dont have accidents, my club are now doing that level 1 course for people under 16. sounds like a good idea i think.



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