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Topic: getting aboard
Posted By: kenney
Subject: getting aboard
Date Posted: 28 Nov 04 at 6:23pm

Hi forum.

Im 19 years old, I have worked and played in the yachting industry for a number of years now crewing/skippering large cruiser/racers, and afew months ago was thrilled to pass Yachtmaster offshore (one of those 'weekends from hell'!!!)

Ive now got this funny little itch to get on one of these fappin fast pond skaters, scare the s**t out of myself and get really wet!!!!!!! Oh yessss.  The thing is guys ive never tried dinghy sailing, I dont know anything about it or anyone whose got one.  I may have the cash lying around for a cheap one if i try hard enough.  Im also a fit but well built 13 stone, does this cause a problem? what sort of boat shall i go for guys? and how do I get into this sport?? ps anyone from the solent/hamble river area? gimme a shout.

Any help will be great guys,

Cheers



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Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 29 Nov 04 at 5:17pm
read Crewing to win by Andy Hemmings and then go to your local club with a large dinghy contingent - Stokes bay, itchenor of Hayling spring to mind if you're near and see if you can find a 505, International 14 to crew

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Posted By: kenney
Date Posted: 30 Nov 04 at 2:22pm

Thanks garry ill look into it.  Ive seen that book about, so should be no probs getting a copy.  As it happens my next door neighbour has just taken possesion of a Laser SB3 and has asked me to buy myself a wetsuit for christmas.  They look like good fun!

Thanks again.

K.



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Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 30 Nov 04 at 10:11pm
If you have the money and want to sail wet boats all year round go for a drysuit .

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Garry

Lark 2252, Contender 298

www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk


Posted By: Doctor Clifford
Date Posted: 01 Dec 04 at 8:23am
Originally posted by Garry

If you have the money and want to
sail wet boats all year round go for a drysuit .


In the South of England? Only if you are a fairy!

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Posted By: Coolhand
Date Posted: 01 Dec 04 at 8:26am
You don't need a wetsuit on an SB3 - they're a keelboat so, unless you fall off, the gear you have for Yachts will be fine.


Posted By: Garry
Date Posted: 01 Dec 04 at 11:39am
Kenny started off by saying he wanted to sail a 'Fast pond Skater' that implies at least a risk of capsize from time to time.  I assume the SB3 is just going to be one of many classes he tries and, if you can afford it! A drysuit has just the edge on comfort, especially in the winter. 

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Garry

Lark 2252, Contender 298

www.cuckoos.eclipse.co.uk


Posted By: kenney
Date Posted: 02 Dec 04 at 2:43pm

I think moneys the real issue!!  A wet suit will be fine i guess.  I do have a very good pair of ocean foulies, except i really think they were intended for use aboard a yacht, theyre abit cumbersome at times, even using them working fore deck on a Sigma 38 can be difficult! (although we were being tossed around like a toy in a bath tub by my old friend the Bay of Biscay. - just in case the old girls listening to this: look after me and i promise; No more apple cores!)

Anyway, I used to 'dry-sail' (a series of lauch and recoveries including a scrub once a week to keep them out of the water when not racing) SB3's, 1720's, and Hunter 707's, now, correct me if i'm wrong (and you'll probably need to) but the SB's had a lifting keel, which was more a-kin to a daggerboard in my eyes (although they do have the bulbous lead bottom) so to me the SB is a dinghy, and the likes of the Cork 1720 is a keel boat as they have bolted fin keels very similar to alot of cruiser-racing yachts, as do the 70's, any thoughts guys??

K



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Posted By: Matt Lingley
Date Posted: 07 Dec 04 at 10:00pm

An SB3 is a keelboat, if a lift keel means a boat is a dingy a Melges 24 must be a dingy too. You dont even hike on an SB3! At 13 stone look for a crewing spot on an Rs400, that will be fast enough for you to start with but not be a million miles from what your used to, everytime i step on  a J80 I still think that its a big 400!

Interesting to come across somone who is going from big boats to dinghy's, I'm also 19 and have been working the other way...Trying to get some offshore rides now!



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Posted By: Adam84
Date Posted: 09 Dec 04 at 9:09pm

Crewing is definatly the way to start. The RS400 is a good idea its a big dinghy but it can get goin pritty quick! The 59er would also be a good boat to have a go in if ya can find someone with one.



Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 09 Dec 04 at 9:54pm
you want to find someone with a 505 or 470 first of all if you havn't sailed dinghies before, then try and find a go on an international 14 just to get a feel for the level of performance many new age dinghies are capable of.

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Posted By: kenney
Date Posted: 10 Dec 04 at 1:16pm

Yeah, in hindsight it was abit of a thoughtless comment about the SB as I have been aboard large yachts with lifting keels, and have heard of yachts upwards of 65ft that are fitted with lifting keels.  That would be one 'mother of a dinghy!!! 

I have been told several times that my sailing career has been started arse about face, however, start as you mean to go on, and I think dinghy and one design keel boat racing will keep me busy on a sunny weekend, although my talents aboard the yachts will also provide me my wage!  I know first hand that dinghy sailors often make extremely good trimmers and helmsmen due to excellent wind awareness and apreciation for a good sail shape, as I had one aboard a westerly Fulmar 32 i was skippering from Le Havre to Portsmouth.  I must say that at about 2am crossing the channel in a good force 6, I had to come up and ask him to ease the sheets just a tad as we were dead close hauled, thrashing to windward at a good 10kts, as the lee cloth of one of our larger crew members had taken acception to the 35 degrees of heel and had sent the ex fireman into the saloon table ripping it from its base and sending apples, oranges and plastic cups all over the show!  They certainly like going fast, as indeed I do, however on this occasion the visability was poor and we were crossing busy shipping channels, and whats more we were "cruising" her back to Portsmouth! The repairs to the saloon table were made by the guy upon our safe return to haslar marina!!

Lunatic.

K.



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Posted By: Phil eltringham
Date Posted: 10 Dec 04 at 5:22pm

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105 foot, lifting keel, and very sexy!!!!!



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Posted By: kenney
Date Posted: 11 Dec 04 at 12:17pm

Put me down for two!!!!

 



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