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Team Origin (GBR)

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Category: Keelboat classes
Forum Name: America's Cup
Forum Discription: Your thoughts on challenges to win the 'Auld Mug'
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Topic: Team Origin (GBR)
Posted By: hurricane
Subject: Team Origin (GBR)
Date Posted: 04 Jan 07 at 4:02pm

So GBR will have a team for the 33rd Americas Cup !

 

http://www.originsailing.com - http://www.originsailing.com



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Posted By: Quagers
Date Posted: 04 Jan 07 at 4:41pm
About time to, are they building new boats from scratch or using the 2 that are in storage at Cowes?


Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 05 Jan 07 at 1:35am
Hooo-Rah!

They make a few mentions of taking on board 'top designers' which implys to me new boats....


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Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 05 Jan 07 at 11:40am

 

well I think alot of Bear of Britain crew will be picked to sail on this challenge,

seeing as the old boats are in storage next to the Bear setup, im sure they will be used as training boat 



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Posted By: Stefan Lloyd
Date Posted: 05 Jan 07 at 12:04pm

Originally posted by Quagers

About time to, are they building new boats from scratch or using the 2 that are in storage at Cowes?

AC is a development class. By this time, the existing boats only have value as training boats.

 



Posted By: andyrj
Date Posted: 05 Jan 07 at 1:42pm

I wonder what Peter Harrison has to say about all of this. He ownes the boats.

He was desperate for sponsors and nobody was willing to stump up the cash. Now, six months later, somone else has decided to give it a go. Where were you, Sir Keith?



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Posted By: hum3
Date Posted: 05 Jan 07 at 5:31pm
Originally posted by andyrj

I wonder what Peter Harrison has to say about all of this. He ownes the boats.

He was desperate for sponsors and nobody was willing to stump up the cash. Now, six months later, somone else has decided to give it a go. Where were you, Sir Keith?

He was in negotiation with PH, but got offered the Olympic gig and went for that instead...



Posted By: Franky_gbr52R
Date Posted: 12 Jan 07 at 12:07pm
Originally posted by hurricane

 

well I think alot of Bear of Britain crew will be picked to sail on this challenge,

seeing as the old boats are in storage next to the Bear setup, im sure they will be used as training boat 

 

Wud be nice :p



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Posted By: Franky_gbr52R
Date Posted: 12 Jan 07 at 12:10pm
it is a shame cause PH has got an awesome set up at gbr yard! But its brilliant and at last we are competing in teh Americas cup again Britain shud be involved and shud do well!

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Posted By: MRJP BUZZ 585
Date Posted: 12 Jan 07 at 12:31pm
Wait for it, you will be targeted by the spelling and grammar police

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Posted By: Contender 541
Date Posted: 12 Jan 07 at 1:44pm

Originally posted by MRJP BUZZ 585

Wait for it, you will be targeted by the spelling and grammar police

 

I read that and thought exactly the same



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Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 12 Jan 07 at 1:46pm
Hehehe!

Hola Hurricane!! Well it just happens that i'm living an hours drive from Valencia! So who do i support now, GBR or ESP!?!

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Posted By: Franky_gbr52R
Date Posted: 12 Jan 07 at 4:24pm
GBR all the way :p

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Posted By: sailor girl
Date Posted: 12 Jan 07 at 4:25pm
Maybe a t.shirt with GBR on one side and ESP on the other!?

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Posted By: farmerwest
Date Posted: 18 Jan 07 at 9:07pm

GBR are useually a good sailing nation so why arnt we as good at americas cup??



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Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 12 Feb 07 at 2:56pm
Originally posted by farmerwest

GBR are useually a good sailing nation so why arnt we as good at americas cup??




... can think of about $50 million reasons why GB hasn't come close to NZ, USA or SUI yet..... or should that be $150m????


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Posted By: snoopy
Date Posted: 22 Feb 07 at 11:54am
we're a great fleet racing nation and our match racing is on the rise, but we have work to do yet!


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 22 Feb 07 at 12:01pm
Originally posted by farmerwest

GBR are useually a good sailing nation so why arnt we as good at americas cup??



Never put a decent campaign together.

The sailors have always been addicted to the "Give me an equal boat and I'll do the rest" philosophy, which matches well with a big ego but matches less well when the opposition turn up with Australia 2 or Stars and Stripes.

The design teams have never been quite up to it. Its been a long time since a British designer has been truly world class at large boats.

And yes, the money is often difficult, but the DeSavary campaigns, for instance, were financed adequately.


Posted By: getafix
Date Posted: 26 Feb 07 at 2:12pm
disagree that we don't have the design ability in big boats, Owen/Clarke [team] are world class in IMOCA, Irens is world class in Multihulls, we have great designers in IRC and One Design and we have world class facilities for tank testing, modelling etc... as for structural engineering, materials engineering and composite building ... why are so may top F1 teams located in UK?

... it's pulling this together and funding it that's been the stumbling block of the AC efforts GB has attempted to stage over the last 30+ years.

What Origin need to do is pull together the facilities, once our top design/engineering/sailing talent sees there is a real base for success then they'll flock to the cause but without it?  can't see top GB sailors climbing over each other to get to an empty shed on the IOW with a nice looking model of an AC yacht in and a bunch of "we hope to" statements on a website.

I'd argue that in the past GB challenges the search for funding took up too much time (and focus) of the top guys in the team, if they'd had more time to manage the program and tie together the hugely disparate fields of experts you need to compete at this level then we'd have done better.

The sailing itself isn't incidental, but the program must produce technology that has a positive pschycological effect on our sailors and the competitors (did Alinghi win the 1st time against NZ on the water or partly also on land??)


....course, I could just be waffling to get out of going back to work

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