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Post race OCS

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Forum Name: Race Management
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Topic: Post race OCS
Posted By: ClubRacer
Subject: Post race OCS
Date Posted: 05 Jun 22 at 6:45pm
 Another common request for redress is when a competitor is scored as being OCS or UFD and they donít think they should have been. Every sailor should get in the habit of checking the official notice board once they come ashore, to A) to check they are not listed in any protests and B) once the results are posted that they have been scored correctly. If at this point you see an OCS or UFD score against your name and you think it is wrong, your first move should be to speak to the Race Officer and ask to review the tape recording of the start. Often this can solve the issue if you hear your number clearly called out prior to the gun, but if the race team failed to record the premature starters on tape or video, then you have more of a case for requesting redress. 

However, getting a fellow sailor who wasnít called over to witness that you were behind them on the line doesnít always work. At a recent Topper World Championship, one such request for redress was heard and a witness produced who confirmed they were ahead of the boat in question when the gun went. When the Race Officer came to give his evidence, he thanked the witness for confirming his position and said that on the individual recalled start there was another boat was spotted over the line that the starter couldnít identify. As the witness had now confirmed which boat that was, they were now scored as OCS too and the protest committee refused the original request for redress! 

Taken from an article I was reading.

I would have presumed if the RO had known there was a boat that was OCS and they had no number for it that it should have been a General Recall? 




Replies:
Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 05 Jun 22 at 6:54pm
The RC doesn't have to signal a general. It may be better to let one or two go than keep restarting and restarting all day.


Posted By: ClubRacer
Date Posted: 05 Jun 22 at 7:18pm
The RO should not permit a race to continue if they are satisfied that unidentified boats were over early

I knew I had read this somewhere, extract from the http://https://assetbank-eu-west-1.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/rya-assets_87113cb4549df15cff38e2cd071931c5/b01/RYA_Race_Management_Guide.pdf?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3Db01%2FRYA_Race_Management_Guide.pdf%3B%20filename%2A%3DUTF-8b01%252FRYA%255FRace%255FManagement%255FGuide%252Epdf&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Date=20220605T190404Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=900&X-Amz-Credential=AKIATJ7XNAYVAWNFIK7R%2F20220605%2Feu-west-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Signature=0d66afff7c6b886fa2afac044032258dfbb7326564dad08d3669ca73751c1bfe" rel="nofollow - RYA race management guide . 

While its only a guide I'm surprised it isn't something covered by the rules. It seems bizarre to me that at a world championship event they were happy to let boats be OCS  


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 05 Jun 22 at 9:02pm
RO could assume someone would either own up or someone would protest the boat, RO would then know the correct number or not, but whatever the race is underway.

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Robert


Posted By: Brass
Date Posted: 05 Jun 22 at 10:55pm
the Race Officer came to give his evidence, he thanked the witness for confirming his position and said that on the individual recalled start there was another boat was spotted over the line that the starter couldnít identify. As the witness had now confirmed which boat that was, they were now scored as OCS too


This bothers me.

Rule 90.3(c) provides "When the race committee determines from its own records or observations that it has scored a boat incorrectly, it shall
correct the error ..."

In this case the RO is not relying on any records or observations of the race committee.

IMHO, if the RO had a concern, they should have protested the boat.



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