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Topic: lighting board
Posted By: wolfram
Subject: lighting board
Date Posted: 16 Oct 21 at 9:56am
Hi,

I'm looking for tips on designing a lighting board for trailering my dinghy (Phantom)

It has pintels on the transom - so was going to cut a bit of MDF to attach number plate and lights to - with a high 'U' shaped bit in the middle to take the mast.

However, I'm a bit worried about weather (will MDF just disintegrate over time) and weight (will it be too much strain on the transom)

Toying with the idea of buying a UPVC window board and fashioning it out of that

Another question - how wide should it be? is 4 foot wide enough?


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Wolfram



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Posted By: ClubRacer
Date Posted: 16 Oct 21 at 10:26am
would it not be easier to get something like this? you can get different ones to configure to pintle spacing and type

http://www.sailboats.co.uk/solo-long-length-mast-and-trailer-board-bracket-683255?gclid=CjwKCAjw8KmLBhB8EiwAQbqNoKxu469qINfmDba64os7BN7PGr_AG08WVUKxU30Jn-UGgrsEGngeKRoCUqoQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow - https://www.sailboats.co.uk/solo-long-length-mast-and-trailer-board-bracket-683255?gclid=CjwKCAjw8KmLBhB8EiwAQbqNoKxu469qINfmDba64os7BN7PGr_AG08WVUKxU30Jn-UGgrsEGngeKRoCUqoQAvD_BwE



Posted By: NickM99
Date Posted: 16 Oct 21 at 10:39am
You probably can't get anything else these days but my life was transformed by buying a board with LED lights.  The old ones sold e.g. by Halfords were very unreliable.


Posted By: wolfram
Date Posted: 16 Oct 21 at 10:56am
Hi - I've actually bought https://www.trailertek.com/top-sellers/connix-wireless-magnetic-trailer-lights?gclid=CjwKCAjw8KmLBhB8EiwAQbqNoPvA00t4hzfuv6KuRdL_N2KEaRnnBGk2OXw9ngHM-wBtzmyUjSVZsRoCl4cQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow - these wireless LED lights - they are working really well - just need to mount them - 

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Wolfram


Posted By: wolfram
Date Posted: 16 Oct 21 at 10:58am
Thanks - that is cheaper than the ones I had seen before, I'll have to check sizes

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Wolfram


Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 16 Oct 21 at 3:54pm
MDF is no good.

you need decent quality ply or proper universal brakes which are available in metal or fibreglass



Posted By: Old bloke
Date Posted: 17 Oct 21 at 7:51am
Those wireless lights look great. When cars were simple and I was poor I used to fit my own towbar and wire up the socket. I used to leave the socket inside the boot away from the rain mud and salt. With the wireless connection you could easily do the same and remove another cause of the bloody things not working.


Posted By: Gordon 1430
Date Posted: 17 Oct 21 at 9:13am
Wolfram I had a piece of MDF as you described t lasted for about 3 years befor moisture ot the better of it.  I replaced it with 1/2 inch ply but whatever you can find.

Most important thing it to make sure you can hold the board onto the pintels, I always secure mine with rope onto the transom bar and I now have a pin to hold the board in place


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Gordon
Phantom 1430


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 17 Oct 21 at 11:21am
Old bloke, I still fit my own towbar and electrics, mornings work for best part of a thousand quid, dealers are rip off artists.

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Robert


Posted By: Old bloke
Date Posted: 17 Oct 21 at 3:01pm
I'm sure you are right, but you get out of the habit. Ever since they started putting a big cover over the engine with"GO AWAY" in big letters on it, it became too stressful!


Posted By: fleaberto
Date Posted: 18 Oct 21 at 12:46pm
Originally posted by 423zero

Old bloke, I still fit my own towbar and electrics, mornings work for best part of a thousand quid, dealers are rip off artists.

I had a brand-new car 2yrs ago and ordered a factory-Fit towbar. It was cheaper than my local fitter.

I made a couple of Lighting board holders from an old bed. Set the pintles up to fit a couple of different boats.
Fitting bolts through the holders and using butterfly nuts allows me to fit a single lightning board to the different holders.
Sanded them down a bit and coated them with some tough outdoor varnish.
I also put the number plate on with velcro so that I can quickly swap that over between our two cars.
They've lasted 6yrs so far. 

One of my trailers also has a wiring plug cable tied along the trailer chassis so that it doesn't matter about the length of the lighting board cable.


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Lightning368 'All the Gear' (409), Lightning368 'Sprite' (101), Laser (big number) 'Yellow Jack', RS Vareo (432)'The Golden Rays'


Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 18 Oct 21 at 12:59pm
Winders do a moulded GRP transom bracket with adjustable pintles and a mast and boom support.  I have swapped this over the years to new light boards purchased on line, after each has given up.  Couple of bolts and job done.

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Happily living in the past


Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 18 Oct 21 at 2:59pm
Originally posted by wolfram

Hi - I've actually bought https://www.trailertek.com/top-sellers/connix-wireless-magnetic-trailer-lights?gclid=CjwKCAjw8KmLBhB8EiwAQbqNoPvA00t4hzfuv6KuRdL_N2KEaRnnBGk2OXw9ngHM-wBtzmyUjSVZsRoCl4cQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow - these wireless LED lights - they are working really well - just need to mount them - 

Look great, but how do you mount this on a carbon boat and what do you stick the number plate too?


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H2 #115 (sold)
H2 145
OK 2082


Posted By: eric_c
Date Posted: 19 Oct 21 at 8:44am
Originally posted by Old bloke

Those wireless lights look great. When cars were simple and I was poor I used to fit my own towbar and wire up the socket. I used to leave the socket inside the boot away from the rain mud and salt. With the wireless connection you could easily do the same and remove another cause of the bloody things not working.

The wireless signal might struggle to get through the steel of the boot lid?


Posted By: Old bloke
Date Posted: 19 Oct 21 at 11:35am
Possibly, but an aero is much more radio transparent than a horse box.
I have ordered a set as my trailerboard fell off at the weekend, so Time will tell


Posted By: eric_c
Date Posted: 19 Oct 21 at 6:38pm
I think I've dragged my trailer board a fair way by the cable, lashing it to empty trailers is always a wind-up.


Posted By: Old bloke
Date Posted: 20 Oct 21 at 11:52am
I have received, and played with, my Connix wireless lights.I haven't used them in anger but initial impressions are that they are great. Really solid feeling gear .The lights are really bright and all worked first time with no messing. The transmitter works from inside the boot at a distance of 15 metres, which should be enough for any boat I am likely to tow.
The magnets are really strong and work through the thickness of the aero transom flaps, however, I have glued some thin steel plate to the trailer board and shall add a tether until I am more confident


Posted By: drifter
Date Posted: 24 Oct 21 at 6:47pm
Do LED trailerboards work OK with indicator confirmation?



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Stewart


Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 25 Oct 21 at 7:23am
Originally posted by drifter

Do LED trailerboards work OK with indicator confirmation?


LED boards wont trigger the BCM fitted with dedicated wiring packs as they don't draw enough current. So they wont work at all.

If you have a bypass relay they'll work, but again they don't draw enough to trigger the beep.


There are ways around this, using resistors, putting a bulb inline Inside the car etc but its actually far less hassle to just use a conventional board and keep an eye on it. I'm not a huge fan of the LED ones, they are fine in the dark but the two ive tried haven't been bright enough for daylight use in my opinion, particularly the brake lights.


Posted By: Old bloke
Date Posted: 25 Oct 21 at 8:33am
Braking is for cissies


Posted By: NickM99
Date Posted: 25 Oct 21 at 1:27pm
The indicator confirmation works fine on my car (2019 Karoq) with LED trailer board lights and I haven't adjusted anything.


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 25 Oct 21 at 3:06pm
I lent my box/windsurfing trailer to a mate and the LED lights simply would not work with his car, a 2010(ish) Skoda Octavia). Fortunately I had/have a spare lighting board with filament lights which worked fine. I have three LED light boards (Trailer, RIB and dinghies) and all work fine with both the 2011 BMW 520 and the 2009 VW T5, I fitted the tow bars and electrics to both myself.

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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"


Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 25 Oct 21 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by NickM99

The indicator confirmation works fine on my car (2019 Karoq) with LED trailer board lights and I haven't adjusted anything.

They have probably sorted this out in the last 3-5 years or so as the LED boards have become more mainstream.


Posted By: wolfram
Date Posted: 04 Nov 21 at 8:50am
Originally posted by Old bloke

I have received, and played with, my Connix wireless lights.I haven't used them in anger but initial impressions are that they are great. Really solid feeling gear .The lights are really bright and all worked first time with no messing. The transmitter works from inside the boot at a distance of 15 metres, which should be enough for any boat I am likely to tow.
The magnets are really strong and work through the thickness of the aero transom flaps, however, I have glued some thin steel plate to the trailer board and shall add a tether until I am more confident

Glad they worked out well for you.

I used them for the first time last week - worked a treat from the transmitter inside the boot. Actually operate inside the house when car parked on drive. They are designed for farm use - the trailers are large steel construction, so signal is probably set to 'kill'


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Wolfram


Posted By: Old bloke
Date Posted: 04 Nov 21 at 9:50am
After my first trip I have found that the lights slid down and fell off . Fortunately I had tied them on also in case this happened. I suspect a Combination of a lot of shaking and bouncing coupled with not a lot of steel.
I have now bolted them on also. The supplied wires are long enough to charge while attached to the board.


Posted By: sawman
Date Posted: 22 Nov 21 at 10:08pm
Originally posted by wolfram

Hi,

I'm looking for tips on designing a lighting board for trailering my dinghy (Phantom)

It has pintels on the transom - so was going to cut a bit of MDF to attach number plate and lights to - with a high 'U' shaped bit in the middle to take the mast.

However, I'm a bit worried about weather (will MDF just disintegrate over time) and weight (will it be too much strain on the transom)

Toying with the idea of buying a UPVC window board and fashioning it out of that

Another question - how wide should it be? is 4 foot wide enough?

I took a piece of 10mm marine ply (actually 2 bits of 5mm, glued together), about 10" wide and tall enough to fit the pintle / gudgeon and mast cut out, couple of coats of yacht varnish and then bolted a 4' 6" lightboard from screwfix to it - still going strong 5 years later 



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