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Which dinghy for sailing with a child?

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Topic: Which dinghy for sailing with a child?
Posted By: Iain C
Subject: Which dinghy for sailing with a child?
Date Posted: 14 Sep 20 at 4:40pm
My son will be five soon, and I'm thinking about getting a boat which we can sail together.  I'm 90kg so have a lot of the weight requirement "covered", and I've sailed high performance boats for years right up to Moths and 18s, so it doesn't nesessarily have to be something really safe and boring.

I've taken him out in my Fireball when it was very light (obviously he wasn't trapezing or using the kite haha) but I want something that we can sail "properly" in reasonable breeze.  Obviously I have no desire to put him off, so I won't take him out in big winds until he's older and wants to do it.

We may wish to do the odd club pond race, but we won't yet be thinking about Nationals etc...let's see if he enjoys it first.

Needs to be fairly cheap, and ideally nothing wooden unless it's in very good order/epoxied.  I thought of the following...

N12...cute little boat but is it too tippy?
Mirror...seems a bit "obvious" and not very comfy to sail but could be good when he starts helming..
Miracle...do they all have 'orrible aft sheeting?
Tasar...is it a bit fast, and is that spanner hard work for a small child?
RS200...probably out of budget but if I found a knacker could that be an option?

Anything else?


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Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
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Posted By: Oinks
Date Posted: 14 Sep 20 at 4:52pm
Enterprise would probably tick a lot of boxes. Aft-sheeting, yes...but you'd get used to it and makes moving around in the boat with a young child a bit easier.


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 14 Sep 20 at 4:58pm
Enterprise, you can centre/aft main it, same as Laser.

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Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 14 Sep 20 at 5:49pm
Enterprise


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 14 Sep 20 at 5:54pm
My brother in law, a Musto sailor, bought a 200 for this purpose.

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Posted By: GarethT
Date Posted: 14 Sep 20 at 5:59pm
Loved our mirror when the boys were that age. With a flyaway pole they were trimming the kite aged 5.

Lots of admiration from the older kids in fevas that the little boy could use a proper spinnaker!

The best thing for me is that you can go out in any wind and be safe, so my boys grew up not fearing a windy day (won the slow handicap at the club regatta in 20 plus knots with a 5 year old crew giggling all the way round!)


Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 14 Sep 20 at 6:01pm
Dont discount the Mirror, cheap as chips and you can rig it how you like pretty much. My youngest has been sailing since she was 2 in our £300 one. Its now pretty much fully race rigged. It wont win the nationals but if/when she decides she wnts to have a go at helming more its ready for her.

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Posted By: Riv
Date Posted: 14 Sep 20 at 6:40pm
Mirrors have so many advantages. In light winds he will soon be able to single hand it with the mast moved forwards. Also you can go camping in one. I used to do this with my Dad. Good fun.

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Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 14 Sep 20 at 7:44pm
National 12 Crusader worked for us

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Posted By: rich96
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 6:01am
Graduate ?

Firefly ?

You cant sail a 200 or Tasar with a Five YO


Posted By: Jon Meadowcroft
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 6:38am
Needs to be a boat with a pretty small jib so child can cope with it.
We sailed a National 12, the key benefit being it moves nicely in light winds so everyone is interested.
If it does get windy the jib remains small.
Small children do not need the complication of a kite and you donít need the frustration of having one and not using it.
A key factor is how big you are.  There is a substantial difference between a 90 kg adult sailing with a small child and a 70 kg adult doing the same.
You seem to know the options!  Take it easy.




Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 7:13am
My kids grew up in Firefly and Mirror, but I'm 5 foot 5. The Mirror went to my brother in law, but he found it simply too small. As someone with experience of sailing singlehanded with a giant kite, sailing the 200 with a small child has proved pretty easy for him. Personally, I'd stick with the slow boats, but the OP sounds more used to "modern" boats and I'm sure the child will love the ride if the usual care is taken.

Picnics better in a Mirror, though!

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Firefly 2324, Lightning 130, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446


Posted By: sargesail
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 7:49am
So:

Our kids loved trimming the assym kite from age 4.

You can sail a Tasar with a 5 year old, but itís hard work.

You can mitigate jib size if 2:1 sheeting is allowed/works.

We sailed and raced a 2000 with our two from ages 4 and 6. Iím your weight.

Theyíve now made the step to the back of the boat and are winning races at Opens.

Couldnít recommend the 2000 more for your purposes.


Posted By: GybeFunny
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 8:29am
I got a Mirror for this purpose but there are no others at the club and we get left behind in every race (unfortunately explaining handicapping to a 6 year old is hard) despite using the spinnaker (with flyaway pole). I suggest you look at what else is sailed at your club by people in a similar position, my club has lots of Graduates so I expect I will get one of them in a year or so when we get more into the racing side of things.
If its a small pond I would avoid assyms as they need more space, its a shame as a 2000 would tick all the other boxes for me.


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 8:57am
Some good suggestions there, thanks.  GybeFunny, small pond...oh, about 3000 acres so we should be good!

A Mirror is tempting, I had one as a kid myself (11973 Miss Piggy) but that gunter rig is a bit of a faff, I'm 5'11" and I think it might just be a bit small.  If I went for something slightly bigger then the other half could come out too, she's 5'9" so with all three of us I just think it would bee too much of a squeeze.  Probably worth mentioning she has been dinghy sailing twice only in her life, both times with me, and I might not have told her that a 2.5 mile downwind blast in the Fireball on the wire with the kite up with a peak speed of 14.6kts is not the normal way to learn, but she's obviously a very fast learner!

A 200 or 2000 would be very nice, but out of budget.  An Enterprise doesn't look like a bad shout...simple is best initially I guess, I certainly have enough bits kicking around to convert to a centre main with no outlay, and I think the "benches" might give him a feeling of security if we have a "I don't like it" moment.

I'm not too worried about the singlehanding side of things...I bought one of the earlier Teras (blue hull, yellow foils, not an RS version) for £100 whilst he was still a baby, so he can get into that as soon as he is able.

Some good suggestions...thanks!


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Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"


Posted By: andy h
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 9:45am
We started with a Mirror when my son was nearly 3 then moved up to a National 12 when he was nearly 8.  Looking back on it the 12 was probably too wobbly and extreme.  Whilst it kept me entertained, was not a reassuring ride for him while he was learning.  A Graduate might have been a better bet for us.  All children are different so it might come down to what's right for him rather than any "default" answer that this forum can offer.

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National 12 3344, Europe 397 and Mirror 53962 all gone with regret


Posted By: andy h
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 9:45am
I do miss that 12 though!

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NS14 2015
National 12 3344, Europe 397 and Mirror 53962 all gone with regret


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 10:08am
What about a GP14?  Or is that jib (code zero????) a bit big for small people?

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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"


Posted By: Gfinch
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 10:44am
This National 12 is probably perfect for you, given your current experience you mentioned in your first post:

https://www.national12.org/adverts/index.php?page=item&id=1757

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136069 - Laser
32541 - Mirror
4501 - Laser 4000


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 11:26am
Originally posted by Iain C

What about a GP14?  Or is that jib (code zero????) a bit big for small people?

Does anybody sail a GP with the small jib these days? The genoa introduced in the '70s is pretty huge.

WRT the Ent, as far as I can tell from the class rules, you can sheet off the boom skiff style which would give the best of both worlds. With the mainsheet led from forward so you can tack/gybe facing forward to keep an eye on the nipper during transitions but there is nothing going from boom to CB case in the middle of the cockpit to get in the way of you can siting further forward for better trim (with 90kg helm and a 20kg crew you'll want the helm well forward much of the time).


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Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"


Posted By: ColPrice2002
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 11:55am
Just to note that the Mirror dinghy now has the choice of a Bermudan rig as an alternative to the Gunter lug.
Far less head damage if you release the main halliard unexpectedly!


Posted By: Old bloke
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 1:29pm
I think the 12 is the way to go if you want to sail a proper boat reasonably competitively. Your combined weight is about right and the boat won't be skating around on the surface like a singlehanded Enterprise etc does. Because of the shape of the boat and the narrow sheeting angle the crew can sit in the middle when tacking and only has a little sheet to pull through, compared to the enterprise which is a long hike for little legs from one side to the other. The 12s at Salcombe Week seem to consist almost entirely of dads and tiny kids. Until the tiny kids aren't tiny anymore and dad gets booted out


Posted By: Neal_g
Date Posted: 15 Sep 20 at 2:58pm
Miracle is a good shout ian carries the weight centre sheeting 1 to 1 as per fireball room for 3 and 58kg hull weight

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Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 8:35am
Iain C - I have a friend whose first experience of sailing was boyfriend's Fireball back in the seventies. They're still married and she now helms, though not a trapeze class.


Posted By: skslr
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 9:17am

I'm 89 kg and sail an RS Feva with my kids since several years. They are (relatively) cheap and you never need to worry about damaging anything, especially during launching/going ashore singlehanded. Staying relaxed yourself is the most important point in sailing with small kids. They also offer a surprising amount of space for a 6'3'' dad and there is virtually no place where kids could hurt themselves due to the soft and rounded cockpit. The mainsheet with rear briddle helps dad moving forward enough to keep the transom out.

With a 4/5 year old a small jib is important, but with your weight you will be able to sail it singlehanded in any reasonable wind in case the kid does not want to contribute anymore.

When they get bored later on the kite will give some extra fun.

Some years on my kids now simply jump overboard when they get bored so it is still important to be able to handle the Feva singlehanded Smile

We retrofitted a mainsheet cleat as in the first Fevas which is nice  singlehanding with the kite up when conditions are too demanding to take a small kid out.





Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 10:21am
Feva, 2000 and modern N12 are out, too expensive.  I'm looking to spend £750 maximum.  I'm also not worried about me being able to singlehand it...as I singlehand my RS700 and Bavaria 32 so most dinghies suitable for this dad/son purpose should be pretty easy, and besides I'd just be sailing the 700 anyway given the choice.

The N12 looks great, but I just think it might be a bit too "racy"...not in terms of performance, but I don't want to force the racing thing...I'd rather be able to get three of us in it, perhaps have the space for a small anchor/sandwich box, and have the ability to trundle over to Whitwell in in from Rutland SC, leave it on the pontoon and go and get an ice cream.  I do think something traditional and cruisey with the ability to race will fit the bill, and TBH it might just be a case of finding the best condition Miracle/Enterprise/Graduate/GP14 (with a small jib) I can find for the money.  I think I'm clearly going to have to be open to the idea of a well maintained woodie, which if Fireballs are anything to go by would be a stiffer, lighter, faster and more aesthetically appealing than a GRP boat (GRP not FRP obviously!) and be good value.

I suspect we'll only have this one for a couple of years, and then it will hopefully be an upgrade to an N12, RS200, Tasar, or perhaps even a '97 rules Cherub!


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Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"


Posted By: A2Z
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 10:29am
Dart 15


Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 10:46am
There is a Crusader National 12 for sale on Apollo Duck for £825.  Would be ideal.

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Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 11:12am
My research into this always came back to the Laser 2000 Iain.... ticks most of the boxes, even if a little heavier to manhandle ashore solo.


Posted By: Peter Barton
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 12:51pm
Originally posted by Iain C

....I suspect we'll only have this one for a couple of years, and then it will hopefully be an upgrade to an N12, RS200, Tasar, or perhaps even a '97 rules Cherub!
Lots of sensible suggestions here - but good you realise that you might want another Cherub again soon!
I met a 9 year old Eddie Bridle at the 2008 Cherub Nationals when he was crewing for his Dad and loving it. This year he came 5th/70 at the Moth Nationals.

We bought an RS Feva this year and love it. Whilst unlikely £750 they are good value and not necessarily too much more. 


Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by Iain C

My son will be five soon, and I'm thinking about getting a boat which we can sail together.  I'm 90kg so have a lot of the weight requirement "covered", and I've sailed high performance boats for years right up to Moths and 18s, so it doesn't nesessarily have to be something really safe and boring.

I've taken him out in my Fireball when it was very light (obviously he wasn't trapezing or using the kite haha) but I want something that we can sail "properly" in reasonable breeze.  Obviously I have no desire to put him off, so I won't take him out in big winds until he's older and wants to do it.

We may wish to do the odd club pond race, but we won't yet be thinking about Nationals etc...let's see if he enjoys it first.

Needs to be fairly cheap, and ideally nothing wooden unless it's in very good order/epoxied.  I thought of the following...

N12...cute little boat but is it too tippy?
Mirror...seems a bit "obvious" and not very comfy to sail but could be good when he starts helming..
Miracle...do they all have 'orrible aft sheeting?
Tasar...is it a bit fast, and is that spanner hard work for a small child?
RS200...probably out of budget but if I found a knacker could that be an option?

Anything else?

  • Graduate

  • N12 - Paper Dart (wickedly fast on restricted water) - after a while move on to more modern N12s keep it for pot hunting at Henley and River Trent etc...

  • Mirror - Obvious for a reason. Loved my time with Luke. Make sure its a racing spec and has a kite on it.

  • Enterprise - maybe (jib might be tough at 5 years)?

  • Don't get anything too tippy/performance - you'll put him off. It's not about you, it's about him.

  • Don't do it buy him an old wooden Oppy.






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Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 3:19pm
I have looked at this a lot
We ended up selling the N12, thought it was a DCB which was a bit much for the kids at 6
We joined the L2k band at Rutland.
Itís perfect for sailing with a kid,
Pirate battles, ice cream sails, takes the whole family and racing is very close.

Borrow one

Andy

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 8:05pm
For that money, a Firefly or, for a bit more tippyness for dad, a Lark.

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Firefly 2324, Lightning 130, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446


Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 16 Sep 20 at 9:36pm
Iain

Come chat to me or Steve TC next time you are at the club
Many of us are only to happy to lend out boats to experienced sailors.


Andy

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Posted By: Mark Aged 42
Date Posted: 17 Sep 20 at 2:23pm
I started with my 2 in a 420, which was perfect. As a six footer, I had plenty of room under the boom, there was space up front for the children, option of a spinnaker, and high freeboard, so the kids sit in, not on. A cheap 420 is just a couple of hundred quid. Bargain.


Posted By: rb_stretch
Date Posted: 17 Sep 20 at 4:09pm
I actually started mine in an Albacore, but only in light winds. It gave them plenty of space to indulge in other child activities such as looking for fish or playing with the bailer. 


Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 17 Sep 20 at 4:13pm
How about a graduate? Thereís a Rooster one for sale on a certain facebook sales group but it is £5k

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Posted By: zeon
Date Posted: 17 Sep 20 at 5:05pm
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Posted By: Chris_H
Date Posted: 17 Sep 20 at 5:46pm
I love the Firefly, I really do. I cut my teeth on it when in the school sailing team. However, it can be a bit capsizable on the run and not best for a 5yr old.  

Having said all that, I would love to own a new one ..... One of my all time fave boats (together with a 5-Oh)


Posted By: sawman
Date Posted: 19 Sep 20 at 2:51pm
This brief has miracle written all over it


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 20 Sep 20 at 8:14pm
Thanks for the replies all, and Andymck be good to catch you at RSC one day, I've only just joined after 20+ years at Draycote so it would be good to meet some likeminded folks.  And thanks for your offer of a look at an L2K...it may well be my "next" boat after this one.

However, for the cost (well under £700), absolute simplicity and ability to carry a few bods, I picked up this beauty of an Enterprise yesterday, and took her out today.  It was pretty breezy but she was great, and my lad really enjoyed himself which is what it is all about.

The boat is a cracker...built in 1989 by Tony Prior (who sailed at Draycote for years) she has been epoxied, has a Paintcraft deck job, 2 suits of sails (the Speeds pictured are absolutely first class, old by age, but by the state of every tell-tale on the main, hardly used).  She's got a P&B carbon jib stick and carbon tiller extension.  She's got off-boom centre sheeting (which I may swap to a jammer on the c/b case) and came with all the paperwork, 2 x top covers, 1 x cocoon cover, and a "big wheel" galvanised trailer.  Decent fit out, Cee-Vee stock and decent foils.  Simple, slow, very pretty, but perfect for us.

Thanks again for all the contributions, and for the Enterprise suggestion!




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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 20 Sep 20 at 8:16pm


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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 7:05am
Can't see photos, but sounds like a great choice.

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Firefly 2324, Lightning 130, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 9:00am
I've always though Jack Holt got the Ent right first time and the CA have allowed just enough updates over the years to keep the boat fresh.

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Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 9:29am
OK, trying again with the pics...






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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 9:32am


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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"


Posted By: Chris_H
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 9:33am
Looks a lovely example. Enjoy  :-)


Posted By: GarethT
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 9:44am
Bargain. And great to see your boy's excitement.


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 10:09am
Beautiful, almost (but not quite) enough to tempt me back to a wooden boat Embarrassed

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Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 10:22am
Originally posted by GarethT

Bargain. And great to see your boy's excitement.

I've had some incredibly memorable sails in my life.  Last race of the 12' Skiff Nationals, and winning the event.  Winning a monster windy pursuit race in my Fireball.  First flight in a Moth.  Top 10 windward mark rounding in the 18 at the Mark Foy trophy in amongst the pros.  Going blasting at Weston (as per my avatar) when racing had been called off due to the wind conditions.  And that's not even counting the big boat stuff.  But I have to say just reaching backwards and forwards with my lad in a cheap old Ent made out of dead trees. and seeing his face and excitement, with him asking to stay out for longer, and telling me how much he loves the boat and when are we going sailing next, tops the lot.  Big smile

[TUBE]https://youtu.be/7f7ctN_EJK8[/TUBE]


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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 10:23am
Sails look new, I have a set that we're only used for one event, then stuck in a loft, they sail well and hold their shape in all winds.

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Posted By: GarethT
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 12:29pm
I remember taking my eldest out for the first time; 18 months old in an RS200 with my dad in a drifter.

After about a minute he started saying "go back, go back" so I thought sh*t, he hates it.

Then he walked to the back of the boat and took hold of the tiller!

20 years later mucking about on the water is still a joy my 2 boys and I share.


Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 2:30pm
Iain
I saw you out yesterday.
Breezy day

Andy

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Andy Mck


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by andymck

Iain
I saw you out yesterday.
Breezy day

Andy

What were you sailing Andy?

Yes, it was breezy, so proud of my lad that he enjoyed it...needless to say I'd have headed in immediately if he'd had enough, but he was enjoying it very much and just wanted to keep going.  I don't mind admitting that I'd have been very unhappy indeed at his age in that breeze!


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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs"
Enterprise GBR21970
Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra"


Posted By: andymck
Date Posted: 21 Sep 20 at 5:56pm
Originally posted by Iain C


Originally posted by andymck

Iain
I saw you out yesterday.
Breezy day

Andy

What were you sailing Andy?
Yes, it was breezy, so proud of my lad that he enjoyed it...needless to say I'd have headed in immediately if he'd had enough, but he was enjoying it very much and just wanted to keep going.† I don't mind admitting that I'd have been very unhappy indeed at his age in that breeze!


I was supporting others yesterday. My 2k was out, borrowed for racing,. Son was out with his mate in a feva, for club racing, they were then just swimming after lunch. We also had a couple of open Bics out, one is ours too. These were 8 year olds who are fed up of bailing opis but are too small for Teras. They love them as they can right them easily and can concentrate on sailing. My son goes out sometimes just to capsize. We sometimes have capsize races in them.

Steve TC was coaching the youth lasers who were practicing near where you were.

Andy

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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 22 Sep 20 at 4:23pm
Originally posted by Iain C

Originally posted by andymck

Iain
I saw you out yesterday.
Breezy day

Andy

Yes, it was breezy, so proud of my lad that he enjoyed it...needless to say I'd have headed in immediately if he'd had enough, but he was enjoying it very much and just wanted to keep going.  I don't mind admitting that I'd have been very unhappy indeed at his age in that breeze!

Original Post:  'so I won't take him out in big winds until he's older and wants to do it.' LOL


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Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 22 Sep 20 at 6:24pm
Having the right kit is the key - as long as the crew (wife or child) is warm they'll be more ready to enjoy sailing.


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 22 Sep 20 at 9:34pm
Originally posted by patj

Having the right kit is the key - as long as the crew (wife or child) is warm they'll be more ready to enjoy sailing.


Occasionally husband/ father... had several couples or families on courses where the wife/girlfriend/daughter has been the confident one.

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Firefly 2324, Lightning 130, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446


Posted By: skslr
Date Posted: 23 Sep 20 at 6:44am
These wetsuits made a big difference for sailing with our kids and their price somehow matches up with the fact that small kids outgrow them in a year or so.:
https://www.bluerushshop.co.uk/

Pulling a drysuit over their had can be a nightmare for some kids...


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 23 Sep 20 at 10:41am
Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

Originally posted by Iain C

Originally posted by andymck

Iain
I saw you out yesterday.
Breezy day

Andy

Yes, it was breezy, so proud of my lad that he enjoyed it...needless to say I'd have headed in immediately if he'd had enough, but he was enjoying it very much and just wanted to keep going.  I don't mind admitting that I'd have been very unhappy indeed at his age in that breeze!

Original Post:  'so I won't take him out in big winds until he's older and wants to do it.' LOL

Guilty as charged.  But he wanted to do it, and the smiles say it all!  If he'd said he'd had enough, we'd have been in in a jiffy, but we were all having too much fun!


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