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Laser 2 help …Please

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Topic: Laser 2 help …Please
Posted By: DanJH
Subject: Laser 2 help …Please
Date Posted: 31 May 20 at 7:35pm

I’m new on here and also the new owner of a laser 2 ‘New Wave’

I have identified most of the parts but these were on the bag that came with it. 

Any suggestions what these are please ?

Thanks in advance. 
Dan. 






Replies:
Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 31 May 20 at 7:51pm
1st picture is a 'Down haul', 'Kicker' or 'Out haul', sorry to be so vague.

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Robert


Posted By: DanJH
Date Posted: 31 May 20 at 8:08pm
Thanks Robert. 

It must me a spare as there is a better looking kicker in a bag 

Also, is there a list of rope sizes anywhere ?
 

Thanks. Dan. 


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 31 May 20 at 9:06pm
There used to be a rigging guide on Laser 2 website, if it still exists.

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Robert


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 31 May 20 at 9:25pm
First is probably a downhaul, second looks like a broken end of old kicker.

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Firefly 2324, Lightning 130, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446


Posted By: Sussex Lad
Date Posted: 31 May 20 at 11:55pm


Posted By: sarg boland
Date Posted: 01 Jun 20 at 9:08am
There are still a small happy band of us sailing Laser 11s and what a great boat!  The Class Association is dormant as there is presently not sufficient demand for open meetings or a nationals.  If there was demand we could look at jumping in on a dinghy week or similar.  We tried this at Abersoch a few years a go, great fun.

Laser2sailing.org.uk takes to official page but there are many sites with help and details.

If you google U-tube Mike Croker -  Laser Two there are a series of short videos that take you through rigging every part of the boat.

It is a great sea boat loving the waves and three sail reaching is out of this world.  For these conditions handicap is banditary (if there is such a word).  In land on small ponds the handicap is really possible but I tend to stop using the trapeze and hike and fly spinnaker only when very broad and enjoy sailing that way.

When performance stopped producing/ supporting the class they sold all spares and chandlery responsibilities to "Sailboats" so you can get all class legal kit from them.  Also many old boats filling boat parks.

It is a brilliant boat and pretty indestructible so enjoy all it offers.


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Fair winds


Posted By: DanJH
Date Posted: 01 Jun 20 at 11:55am
Thanks everyone for the info 

Doing some more research, do you think the item 1 photo may be a downhaul / Cunningham?

Cheers. Dan. 


Posted By: sarg boland
Date Posted: 01 Jun 20 at 12:06pm
Not down haul as this finishes through cleat on mast, not two hooks.  Looks like a bodged kicker but much better to have the specified fitting that goes into boom, other hook is fine for base of mast.  If you want to race kicker needs to be easily controlled.

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Fair winds


Posted By: Sussex Lad
Date Posted: 01 Jun 20 at 12:16pm
Top Pic: No good as kicker. Neither end would be captive.....bound to come unhooked when you need it.



Posted By: Neptune
Date Posted: 01 Jun 20 at 1:16pm
Number one looks like a makeshift boat breaker. Release trapeze hooks And connect to one hook and the other to bow fitting to help pulling on rig tension

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RS300 and RS200, ex Musto Skiff


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 01 Jun 20 at 7:29pm
Originally posted by Neptune

Number one looks like a makeshift boat breaker. Release trapeze hooks And connect to one hook and the other to bow fitting to help pulling on rig tension


I wondered about that, but surely the Laser 2 doesn't use that much rig tension? It was built by Laser, it would fold in half?!

I seem to remember grabbing the forestay? Mind, they were very knackered.

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Firefly 2324, Lightning 130, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446


Posted By: sarg boland
Date Posted: 02 Jun 20 at 9:19am
Heavier the crew more tension.  As a rough rule of thumb crew stands at bow and then pulls forestay with all their weight and hailyard is clipped on.  I would never get extra hands, special devices because it will put unnecessary strain on mast etc......  There was craze for lots of tension and then complaints when they snapped their mast!  It is always best in Laser to keep it simple.

Incidentally initially Laser 2 very popular on university circuit mainly because of its bomb proof hull.  Team racing has a premium on roll tacking and gybing and the Larks and Fireflies of the 70's could not construct centre board cases that could withstand the student abuse. 


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Fair winds


Posted By: DanJH
Date Posted: 04 Jun 20 at 12:25pm
Thanks for your help and words of wisdom.

The sails don’t look like the others mentioned on here.
Do I need to add numbers before I sail ? The boat number is LLG464



Posted By: DanJH
Date Posted: 04 Jun 20 at 12:29pm


Posted By: DanJH
Date Posted: 07 Jun 20 at 8:38am
Can anyone give me an idea on the age of this boat please ?

Thanks. Dan.


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 07 Jun 20 at 9:04am
I'll make a finger in the air guess of early to mid 80s, but that is purely based on not remembering seeing many round after that, not on anything more useful. I would be mildly surprised if it wasn't last century.


Posted By: NicolaJayne
Date Posted: 07 Jun 20 at 10:32am
iirc the L2 Fun was   mid 90s to keep  the moulds busy  as  the serious racers moved to the  quasi skiffs   such as the 4 and 5 tonner  and the topper / white   ISO family



Posted By: DanJH
Date Posted: 07 Jun 20 at 10:52am
Thanks.
I thought the numbers LLG 464 may have meant something to someone.
I’ve seen that the laser 2 sail numbers correspond to years of manufacture, but my sails don’t have numbers ?

I’m just interested in finding out that’s all

Cheers. Dan.


Posted By: JimC
Date Posted: 07 Jun 20 at 12:46pm
Nicola sounds more informed than me...

Yes, typically sail numbers are allocated roughly sequentially and can give an idea of date. Hull numbers too I expect, but because sail numbers are so handy most sailors don't pay much attention to them, so you'd probably need someone ho was associated with the factory.



Posted By: marwen
Date Posted: 08 Jun 20 at 8:10am
Originally posted by Sussex Lad

Good Reply Thanks


Posted By: Riv
Date Posted: 08 Jun 20 at 6:09pm
Shrouds are attached to a bolt going all the way trough the mast. Before going out take the bolt out and check to see how much mast is left under the bolt. If it's been used in salt there may not be much. Ours snapped off like a carrot because of corrosion. Put it back with some Duralac to stop the corrosion.


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Mistral Div II prototype board, Original Windsurfer, Alpha 220PR


Posted By: DanJH
Date Posted: 08 Jun 20 at 8:20pm
Hi Riv.

Not sure why that means ??

Thanks. Dan


Posted By: DanJH
Date Posted: 08 Jun 20 at 9:11pm
Actually the penny has just dropped 

I’ll check. Thanks. 



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