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Old/new sails.

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Topic: Old/new sails.
Posted By: 423zero
Subject: Old/new sails.
Date Posted: 30 May 20 at 9:26am
I have been given a suit of Enterprise sails, they were new in 1992 and measured by J C Lees on the 5th June 1992, then stored in the loft till now, will they be any good? They certainly feel like new sails.

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Robert



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Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 30 May 20 at 2:46pm
Assuming they’re constructed from man-made materials, and kept in the dark they should be ok from a degradation perspective, I would think. How different the cut is from current thinking / fashion is a different matter. I don’t know how Ent mast bend is controlled, being deck stepped, with spreaders but w/o lowers...

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Nick
https://www.fireballsailing.org.uk/index.asp?selection=boat-register&subsel=14821" rel="nofollow - GBR 14821 Sijambo



Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 30 May 20 at 5:07pm
Probably closer to a new set than a 1960 set would have been in 1990!

Sail with them, see how they feel, at club level I'm sure they will be great, maybe winning the Nationals might be an ask.

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Firefly 2324, Lightning 130, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446


Posted By: ColPrice2002
Date Posted: 31 May 20 at 7:46pm
Do check the luff and foot bolt ropes! These tend to shrink over time. That will mean the main won't go up to the top black band - it may cause severe wrinkling of the luff.

Might be worth checking when the Enterprise class adopted spreaders - the original boats didn't have them - but did have wooden masts...

Colin


Posted By: NicolaJayne
Date Posted: 31 May 20 at 9:15pm
Originally posted by ColPrice2002

Do check the luff and foot bolt ropes! These tend to shrink over time. That will mean the main won't go up to the top black band - it may cause severe wrinkling of the luff.

Might be worth checking when the Enterprise class adopted spreaders - the original boats didn't have them - but did have wooden masts...

Colin


a set of Enterprise sails from 1992  unless specifically  cut  for an  out of date rig would likely  be cut for a Proctor D+ or the equivalent Superspars  mast  , with spreaders and  working with significant rig tension   


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 31 May 20 at 9:22pm
One thing, it's not 'Lens footed'.

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Robert


Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 01 Jun 20 at 4:32pm
It might want new bolt ropes but will otherwise be fine, with the caveat that its designed for a rig that was modern at the time. Not much has changed since.

I have 2006 Solo sail in a similar state and its great.


Posted By: jaydub
Date Posted: 01 Jun 20 at 6:19pm
I left the class in 2003 having sailed Ents from 1979 onwards.

I don't think sail shapes had moved significantly during the last 10 or so years I was in the class.

By 92 the class was pretty much using either the Selden D+ or the sleeved Superspar M2 as the masts of choice, so not much will have changed in the intervening period.

Interesting though that it didn't have a lens foot.  It should have done.  Who made the sails?


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 01 Jun 20 at 7:09pm
Had another look, it is Lens footed, they are 'Speed Sails'.

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Robert


Posted By: Paramedic
Date Posted: 01 Jun 20 at 9:15pm
They'll be absolutely fine.

They used to leave a tail on the bolt rope so it might not need to be replaced, it might just pull down a bit


Posted By: jaydub
Date Posted: 02 Jun 20 at 6:42pm
Nice pressie then.  Speeds were my weapon of choice back in the day.


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 02 Jun 20 at 7:42pm
People having time to spring clean everywhere, landfills must be groaning with 'Mathoms'

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Robert


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 02 Jun 20 at 9:22pm
I was given a 1960 Ent a fair few years ago, with it came a set of 15+ year old but virtually unused sails. It was my dad's best buddy who gave me the boat and he asked that I paid him a modest sum for the sails which I did gladly. I taught my kids to sail in that boat and eventually gave the hull to a mate to convert for pottering on the canal (it was beyond handling rig tension by then) and sold the spars and sails to a young guy who was restoring an Ent himself. These things go around....

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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 03 Jun 20 at 6:05am
Always liked Ents, probably going to get another.
Had a Topper sail from same person, not so old but condition first class, there weren't any Toppers at my club, anyone wants it, let me know.

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Robert



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