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Hartley 12 handicap

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Topic: Hartley 12 handicap
Posted By: drifter
Subject: Hartley 12 handicap
Date Posted: 01 Dec 19 at 7:30pm
Anyone got a sensible PN for a Hartley 12, una rig Dacron sail with vertical battens? I can only find 1350 which is Topper-slow. Cant the manufacturer suggest something reasonable?


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 01 Dec 19 at 7:57pm
Have you sailed it against a Topper ?


Posted By: drifter
Date Posted: 01 Dec 19 at 8:00pm
No danger of me sailing them. Club bought two of them, first outing today and one did very well. No way are these Topper-speed


Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 01 Dec 19 at 8:08pm
Broadhaven yacht club suggest 1290" rel="nofollow -


Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 01 Dec 19 at 8:51pm
Just work back from the timings once you have a few results, then adjust as more data comes in. Also cross check positions if the helms sail other boats regularly.

Firefly 2324, Lightning 130, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446

Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 02 Dec 19 at 1:11pm
It isnt down to the manufacturer to suggest a number. Quite a few of them avoid the subject completely. 

Best bet is for your club to give you a starting point and work from there. If the results are wildly different from your previous ones then asjudt the number as required.

D-Zero GBR 74

Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 02 Dec 19 at 3:36pm
I'd have said Topaz Race X would be closer than Topper, 1200ish rather than 1363, the H12 is similar length and has roughly the same sail area as the Race X so performance shouldn't be radically different.

Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"

Posted By: ian.r.mcdonald
Date Posted: 02 Dec 19 at 4:06pm
Radical suggestion, but why not ring up Mark at Hartleys and ask him?

At least a credible starting point that your club can adjust from

Posted By: Gordon 1430
Date Posted: 02 Dec 19 at 4:15pm
Seafarers SC are using 1200 for the 12.

Phantom 1430

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